Off Topic Corona virus

[ristac]

Roll the clock back just 20 years before the internet, we would have all relied on the news. The government would have said last week carry on as normal and we would have done.

Instead we see the images of panic buying and it fuels more panic buying, we read 20 different expert opinions and depending on if you are under 70 or over 70 or if you are glass half full or half empty or sensible or ignorant you believe the story you want to believe.

The internet is a great tool but it is also guilty of spreading panic and chaos.

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

Most stories are not different though, if you’re of a certain age group it must be terrifying, if you’re fit and healthy and under 50 you have no concerns. 80% of those who are going to have this show mild to very little symptoms, the guy at McLaren showed symptoms on Thursday, tested positive and today he is okay. The press prefer to add the death of an 83 year old who already had complications.

There will be 100,000s similar and like I said previous, the government are trying to figure out how to keep the vulnerable safe whilst allowing the fit and healthy to swiftly catch it and move on. The 130k is so inaccurate it’s not worth mentioning, they only count tested cases, not someone calling 111, we’re probably into the millions worldwide.

The longer countries stay on lock down, the more businesses will suffer, the more those with Anxiety and depression will suffer, jobless figures sky rocket, crime will increase, those with OCD are going into meltdown, people waiting for operations that are being put back are all suffering.

Yes you and Chesh have major concerns and rightly so over your elderly parents but don’t under estimate the lives this will claim through poverty, stress and financial strain and the increase in homelessness through a collapsing worldwide economy.

Covid 19 will claim lots of elderly lives and the lockdowns will claim it’s own victims of the younger generation. The point most are forgetting is no matter what we do, within the next couple of years we’re all likely to get this, hiding away won’t make this go away. Lockdowns are aimed at coping with the stress and strain of the elderly and vulnerable, I’ve said from the very start, put that group into lockdown and let’s get on with it.

You can come up with a million and 1 reasons not to shut down, but when we reach a certain number we will, prepare for it or go under.
We will shut pubs and schools and if cases still rise then everyone will go in lockdown.

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

Roll the clock back just 20 years before the internet, we would have all relied on the news. The government would have said last week carry on as normal and we would have done.

Instead we see the images of panic buying and it fuels more panic buying, we read 20 different expert opinions and depending on if you are under 70 or over 70 or if you are glass half full or half empty or sensible or ignorant you believe the story you want to believe.

The internet is a great tool but it is also guilty of spreading panic and chaos.

Why have they shut down football, but left Ant and Dec with thousands on live TV

 

[ristac]

You can come up with a million and 1 reasons not to shut down, but when we reach a certain number we will, prepare for it or go under.

There is no time for anyone to prepare for it

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

There is no time for anyone to prepare for it

You need to talk to the bank, get you wife to prepare to lay off staff, reduce costs as much as possible, our government want to try and keep people working, but if after we shut pubs etc and numbers still rise we will do the same as Italy and Spain.

 

[ristac]

Why have they shut down football, but left Ant and Dec with thousands on live TV

Mass gatherings have not yet been told to stop by the governemt, Football took it into their own hands. Cheltenham went ahead, was there seriously not a single stable lad, jockey, trainer, driver or owner not showing symptoms or self isolating? All rugby matches went ahead apart from those with travel problems yet a couple of footballers self isolated as a precaution and the football side went into meltdown.

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

Mass gatherings have not yet been told to stop by the governemt, Football took it into their own hands. Cheltenham went ahead, was there seriously not a single stable lad, jockey, trainer, driver or owner not showing symptoms or self isolating? All rugby matches went ahead apart from those with travel problems yet a couple of footballers self isolated as a precaution and the football side went into meltdown.

The only answer is to close some things down till we get a leveling out of numbers, ie 300-500 a day, then after 3 weeks we will have as many getting over it a day as are getting it, but if we are not able to do that, they will come a time when we will lock Down.

 

[ristac]

You need to talk to the bank, get you wife to prepare to lay off staff, reduce costs as much as possible, our government want to try and keep people working, but if after we shut pubs etc and numbers still rise we will do the same as Italy and Spain.

I'm self employed, I won't get a bit of help just like plumbers, sparkies, carpenters, taxi drivers and a ton of others but if the help is SSP that isn't going to pay the bills, it just about covers a weeks shopping. I'm not denying we won't follow other countries if this goes the same way

Despite what anyone believes the banks don't want to know at the moment, they might offer you a business loan but it needs repaying, take a look at the Government web site, those budget measures are plans but nothing is in force yet. Peoples businesses are taking a huge hit now and that's without a lock down in place. To make the women at the hair salon redundant would cost us over £6,000 each due to their length of service.

Nobody has time to plan for this as it is happening right now, people are already panicking and tons of businesses are already suffering

 

[brisbane-lion]

What else can you expect from people who eat tigers cocks and rhino horn

The same as you would expect from people that eat tripe and onions, mushy peas and black pudding
.

 

[ristac]

You need to talk to the bank, get you wife to prepare to lay off staff, reduce costs as much as possible, our government want to try and keep people working, but if after we shut pubs etc and numbers still rise we will do the same as Italy and Spain.

I am luckier than some as I also have a part-time contract delivering medication for a pharmacy chain, just a few hours a week but I'm imagining a few extra hours will be required as this progresses but there will be many with absolutely zero income trying to get through this

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

I'm self employed, I won't get a bit of help just like plumbers, sparkies, carpenters, taxi drivers and a ton of others but if the help is SSP that isn't going to pay the bills, it just about covers a weeks shopping. I'm not denying we won't follow other countries if this goes the same way

Despite what anyone believes the banks don't want to know at the moment, they might offer you a business loan but it needs repaying, take a look at the Government web site, those budget measures are plans but nothing is in force yet. Peoples businesses are taking a huge hit now and that's without a lock down in place. To make the women at the hair salon redundant would cost us over £6,000 each due to their length of service.

Nobody has time to plan for this as it is happening right now, people are already panicking and tons of businesses are already suffering

You lay off not make redundant.

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

The same as you would expect from people that eat tripe and onions, mushy peas and black pudding
.

And jellied eels, glad you are admitting it's all you fooking cockernees fault.

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

I am luckier than some as I also have a part-time contract delivering medication for a pharmacy chain, just a few hours a week but I'm imagining a few extra hours will be required as this progresses but there will be many with absolutely zero income trying to get through this

If the whole country goes in lockdown you will be no different than 95% of the country, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

 

[ristac]

You lay off not make redundant.

You can't just lay them off, redundancy is the only option

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

You can't just lay them off, redundancy is the only option

You can lay people off, or defer wages, ask Bolton and Macclesfield footballers, in fact ask probably every league one and two footballers over the next few weeks.

 

[ristac]

If the whole country goes in lockdown you will be no different than 95% of the country, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

Not disagreeing but seeing it self desturct and panic doesn't mean I have to be happy about it

 

[Eireleeds1]

I'm self employed, I won't get a bit of help just like plumbers, sparkies, carpenters, taxi drivers and a ton of others but if the help is SSP that isn't going to pay the bills, it just about covers a weeks shopping. I'm not denying we won't follow other countries if this goes the same way

Despite what anyone believes the banks don't want to know at the moment, they might offer you a business loan but it needs repaying, take a look at the Government web site, those budget measures are plans but nothing is in force yet. Peoples businesses are taking a huge hit now and that's without a lock down in place. To make the women at the hair salon redundant would cost us over £6,000 each due to their length of service.

Nobody has time to plan for this as it is happening right now, people are already panicking and tons of businesses are already suffering

Not the case here Ristac. Our government has introduced a scheme from today where all self employed without work can claim 203 euros per week same as rest of our working population. Pressurise your stupid mp's for similar. Most European countries are doing it. Some of Our banks started freezing mortgages last night, rest will follow

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

Not disagreeing but seeing it self desturct and panic doesn't mean I have to be happy about it

Do you think any of us are happy about it. If the government had stopped flights to China and Italy sooner we wouldn't be in this mess. Turkey have very few cases.

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

Not the case here Ristac. Our government has introduced a scheme from today where all self employed without work can claim 203 euros per week same as rest of our working population. Pressurise your stupid mp's for similar. Most European countries are doing it. Some of Our banks started freezing mortgages last night, rest will follow

We aren't quite at that stage yet, but they will have to do more, if they fail the public now they will soon be out of power.

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

They can keep their bog rolls, but I'm stocking up on beer and Baileys.