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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by lifecheshirewhite, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. Eric Le Merde

    Eric Le Merde Well-Known Member

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    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Care home managers and Joe public ignoring guidelines. In theory three weeks into a lockdown there should be zero new cases if everyone was doing as they’re told.

    I do feel Boris has got it horribly wrong with his statement yesterday
     
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  3. Eric Le Merde

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    With so many new cases everyday in the UK easing any restrictions seems premature. In fact you probably need tighter controls if it is going to be stopped. Close the borders, how many people have arrived in the UK in the last two weeks?. Over 60% of all the infections in Australia were acquired overseas,

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    A friend of mine who lives a few doors away. His wife has just come out of hospital, she was admitted with COVID 19 he has posted his experience on FB and filed an official complaint.

    They called 111 and was told to go to the hospital car park where a mobile unit was located, go inside and follow the instruction. The idea is sound you phone from the cabin a nurse comes over tests your vital signs then decides on the next course of action, however, he was so disturbed by cleanliness of the cabin, the bin was overflowing with used PPE and there were two used surgical gloves on the floor.

    The room was full of possible contaminated products. Cutting a long story short, his wife was admitted and released 12 hours later, sent home in a taxi having been given the all clear.

    Eight hours after being sent home she was on her way back in an ambulance, this time confirmed as having COVID 19. Once she started making a recovery he started making a complaint process, it dawned on him that she had been in a taxi whilst full of germs. He asked the hospital for the taxi firm and name of the driver, they could not supply either.

    His FB post has received a flood of replies, including another mutual friend who had to take his daughter to hospital for something completely different, he witnessed a doctor coughing in the corridor using his hand and no tissue, he was walking behind the doctor who passed two sanitiser points yet ignored both.

    Another reply received was from someone else who was admitted for tests, they were alarmed that neither of the two nurses who initially did the tests on them were wearing any PPE she asked them if they’d run out, “no we have plenty but our faces get too sore wearing them all day”. His father who was having the tests died in hospital a week later from Covid.

    Now Boris isn’t getting it spot on, but it’s all well and good going outside on a Thursday clapping for the NHS but they’re not all perfect either and you can’t just put every death down to the Tory party.
     
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    I agree, we slowed the spread but our lockdown isn’t strict enough now. We own a hair salon, I’ll be honest, the financial support we have received from the government has been awesome, can’t fault it in the slightest.

    Our phased time for opening again is July along with some hospitality. Between then and now factories and manufacturing must go back, some shops to open in June. If new infection figures start to spike, we go into lockdown (of sorts) again. With this possible yo-yo effect we might not open realistically until Aug-Sept possibly later.

    We’re talking women with there hair, I’m already seeing on FB mobile hairdressers and beauticians offering a “take-away” menu, obviously offering to go to peoples houses. I’m seeing lots of women walking around with no roots and freshly cut hair.

    This isn’t a pity me and my business post, I’ve been well looked after so far, I’m just highlighting how this is going to go horribly wrong. You have the mixed message of go to work if you can’t work from home, you have those allowed to work and those who are not, the women who don’t want to go back to work looking a mess and all the mobile hairdressers and beauticians jealous they have not been looked after, they possibly have no income so they’re going to run the risk.

    Now is the time for a three week super lockdown, grind the country to a complete halt, no takeaways, no Amazon, no home deliveries of anything other than basic groceries. Then open us up together if safe to do so with precautions in place.

    On the other side of the coin, I’ve seen lots of posts on twitter simply saying this isn’t going to go away, we as a nation need to learn to “live with it” we can’t stay closed forever.
     
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    Agree with most of that. The main problem I see is how infectious the thing is. If the uk for example, eliminated it completely, unlikely anyway, it would take only one case coming from anywhere, and within a month a second wave would be in full flow. Until this has been eliminated worldwide by vaccine or whatever, we will all be living with it and the restrictions it brings
     
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    OK you have a point Bris, but the issue I have is not about politics it's about leadership. Johnson could be communist or a fascist, or anything in-between but a leader he is not.
     
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    "Coming from anywhere"? In your case I'd say "coming from everywhere". For Christ's sake, get it right!!
     
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    Not like Scott Morrison, eh? <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh> My point was, Eric, that that is all pollies ever do. Make a decision? F*ck off!!
     
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    If we had done it right it wouldn’t be able to. We’re a small island that could have easily closed its borders for a few months but chose not to and still won’t. Uk is same
     
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    I must admit it was what I though we should do when this first kicked off but it only takes one to spread the virus and the British, love them or hate them, aren't going to stay in lock-down.
     
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    Even with all the evidence, the UK still hasn't closed it's borders. For God's sake, wake up!! And as for closing your borders, didn't you complain bitterly about this during the BREXIT A debacle?
     
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    The Prime Minister, Scott Morrison, is a very lucky person. Holidaying through the bushfires, Sports rort etc and a smarmy, sarky snearing person to boot will come out of this OK but he will get his comeuppance.
     
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    Mate he probably didn't he is Irish - how long have you been on our forum?
     
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    <laugh> Maybe I forgot to mention I was Irish since joining in 2011 <whistle> cats out of the bag now
     
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    Perhaps he is dyslexic, Aire/Eire, you never know?
     
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    It seems journalists have had a completely different briefing to what was said last night. Loads of sources are saying you're now allowed to meet with one other person, who is not from your household, as long as it's outside and you stay more than two meters apart. Robert Peston gave the example that you're now allowed to go jogging with your auntie as long as she doesn't bring your uncle.

    God knows what will come out of parliament today...
     
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