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  1. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    whilst i respect your views , i don't agree with them, i would suggest that the majority of the Country feel the same way as i do, considering the stark choice we had between commie Corbyn or Boris, most chose Boris in fact the worst Labour defeat in 80 years,and swaths of former loyal labour heartland turned against them, who would give the keys of the door to that commie sympathizer. This prime minister has the hardest job since Churchill, he not only has the pandemic but Brexit as well, he is bound to make decisions a lot of people don't agree
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    it is human nature after all, we all love Sunderland but every thread has contributors with different ideas and theories to the next guy.you cant please all of the people all of the time, but it doesn't help when nearly every thread goes off track by someone trying to have a dig at the government.and i guess that's what i'm getting at keep politics on a politics thread, and let the them argue till there hearts content,if they can find anyone to argue with, i for one am sick of the sniping, if they think they can do better let them run for an MP position. wish they would i'm due a good laugh
     
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  2. DH4

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    Exactly. You cannot defeat an ideology in a war. You simply create martyrs for their cause. At some point someone has to sit down and ask them just what it is they want. From there you can start to negotiate. As a very famous Tory once said "Jaw jaw, not war war", cannot do that without actually meeting the terrorists can you?
     
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    Exactly mate but I don’t think the very famous Tory was wearing a black balaclava firing a machine gun in the air. <laugh>
     
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  4. Makemstine Roger

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    not if you imprisoned the gobshites who get the people going
    Robert Mugabe
    Ayatollah
    bin laden
    Baghdadi
    the list is endless there are a lot that were vermin and got rid of which has stopped a lot of terrorism, so are you in favor of talking to the terrorists or letting the police shoot them. god forbid that none of your family were at the Ariana concert or on London bridge if they injured any of my family they would die by my hand, you cant be civil with dip ****s,i was also wondering how long it would take before you showed up we all know you lean so far left you could end up your own arse
     
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  5. DH4

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    The problem is terrorists are cowards and don't wear nice uniforms identifying them as such do they? So until they are actually commiting the the act of terrorism we do not know who they are. The police can and do shoot to kill terrorists who are in the act. How would you identify the terrorists before they commit the terrorism as you seem to have all the answers? Be interested to know. The Yanks killed Bin Laden, did that stop it? no. The leaders of Islamic State were killed did that stop it? no.
     
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  6. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    like they did when i was in Northern Ireland by intelligence cell identify the shysters grab them and remove them to where lots went but still alive, we were winning but had a government with your ideas of fair play let them murder kill bomb abuse we can always light a candle, change the laws you don't get many terrorism acts in countries with the death penalties. Corbyn even got well paid jobs on the London Council for convicted terrorist released from prison into the community he bombed fekking madness.

    Jeremy Corbyn, the bomb-maker's friend: An IRA terrorist and ...
    www.dailymail.co.uk › news › article-7752923 › Jerem...

    3 Dec 2019 — Jeremy Corbyn, the bomb-maker's friend: IRA terrorist gloried in the Hyde Park ... left jail, admirer Corbyn helped create a council job for him and he jumped a ... But it was McLaughlin, not that young Welshman, who received ...
     
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    With the greatest respect for your tours of Ulster, the terrorism stopped when the terrorists and the politicians got round a table and started peace talks. If that had not happened many more British soldiers would have lost their lives as it would be the same as it was in the 70's and 80's, no British soldiers killed in Northern Ireland since the Good Friday agreement. No IRA bombings and killing of British civilians on mainland Britain since the Good Friday agreement.
     
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    For every IRA operative killed by the British Army they will have had ten new recruits.
     
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  9. Makemstine Roger

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    for every lying **** arrested and taken out of the system that was1 less to poison the minds of innocents
     
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  10. Makemstine Roger

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    when countries fight fire with fire it eventually stops, drug dealers in Indonesia have been given the death sentence for years now, an finally drugs is starting to be a thing if the past heroine addicts in their thousands are prasing the president for saving them, they knew the law but were still arrogant enough to think it didn't apply to them, knowing all the deaths and lives stolen it could cause yet European families wail for their loved ones who were selling the drugs, but they did not think about the people they were hurting.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48340209
    Frenchman sentenced to death over Indonesia drug smuggling
     
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    Why in your opinion did the terrorism stop then?
     
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  12. MrRAWhite

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    If we had took IRA suspects out then we would have had the USA on our case. That is where the vast majority of funding came from anyway.
     
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  13. Makemstine Roger

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    but it has not and never will until the perpetrators are caught and deal with
    Northern Ireland police charge New IRA suspects | 24.08.2020
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    24 Aug 2020 — Memories of Troubles slow to fade in Northern Ireland. Two others ... Derry, Londonderry: 02.08.2019+++An imitation road sign, erected ...

    Northern Ireland is already spiralling out of control but no one ...
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    23 Aug 2019 — Scenes reminiscent of the Troubles are already happening – even before a no-deal Brexit ... Friday 23 August 2019 16:29 ... Closer to lunch time, Northern Ireland's police service (PSNI) who were ... 7 November 2020.
     
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    If we go back on the Good Friday Agreement then it will undoubtedly reignite the troubles.
     
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    Would you suggest sending the troops back into Northern Ireland to deal with the examples you cite?
     
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  16. Makemstine Roger

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    they did but they wanted the sea harrier which was more important thats why sympathisers sent boats of arms only to be caught
     
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  17. Makemstine Roger

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    read the news it has never ended
     
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  18. DH4

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    No British soldiers killed by the IRA in Northern Ireland since the Good Friday Agreement.... No Bombings by the IRA on mainland Britain killing British civilians since the Good Friday Agreement.
     
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  19. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    no build a wall like Trump they wanted Independence, surely if they cant play by the rules in the north then they should be denied, the North is indipendant filled with lovely people same as in the south its only the rebel rouses trying to turn the heads of any that will listen . We had the same during the war Mosley and his followes but now his son Max OF F1 fame lives a peaceful life. We should not intervene its their Ireland
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    British intelligence at its best, although plenty have been caught, some time somewhere one will get through but no troops posted in the North
     
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  20. Makemstine Roger

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    who says.................... this is scaremongering like brexit always threats if they dont get what they want
     
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