Off Topic COP 26

[Des Head]

Methane now it's all about the methane CO2 is yesterdays news.

Methane breaks down into CO2.

 

[DMD]

Methane now it's all about the methane CO2 is yesterdays news.

It doesn't take much digging to see that it's politics rather than science driving the issues, and fueling the media.

 

[Des Head]

The documentary you mention contains a fair number of errors. Many of the measures to control the climate focus on CO2 (and often erroneously 'carbon') but many of the measures offered to remedy it, actually increase other gasses that have a greater global warming potential.

Such as?

 

[DMD]

Methane breaks down into CO2.

I think you mean ozone.

 

[DMD]

Such as?

Hydrogen and carbon capture and storage/use, and let's not go into the biomass by one of the other main COP sponsors.

 

[Des Head]

I think you mean ozone.

How do you get O3 out of CH4?

 

[balkan tiger]

Bacon sarnie has lower carbon impact than a croissant.

Fact

And it was a plant based croissant too

 

[DMD]

How do you get O3 out of CH4?

I'm not sure why you think you would.

EDIT. I now see why you asked, I misread your post, and assumed the ozone required was already involved.

 

[Des Head]

Hydrogen and carbon capture and storage/use, and let's not go into the biomass by one of the other main COP sponsors.

If those processes are powered by renewable energy then we're golden.

 

[Des Head]

I'm not sure why you think you would.

Then you have a lot to learn.

Edit: Seen your edit.

 

[DMD]

Then you have a lot to learn.

Not that much, if you re-read my edited reply.

How about you post something meaningful instead of questions?

 

[DMD]

If those processes are powered by renewable energy then we're golden.

That rather depends, and leads to even more issues that are yet to be resolved, such as recycling and end of use.

Before you post it, I've read the theories, but also seen the realities.

 

[SW3 Chelsea Tiger]

Again - this board has excelled itself, it’s been a real education.
Better than Google. Fact!!

 

[Des Head]

Not that much, if you re-read my edited reply.

How about you post something meaningful instead of questions?

I edited mine.

I haven't got any questions and I'm not sure what you class as 'meaningful'.

 

[Off The Line]

It doesn't take much digging to see that it's politics rather than science driving the issues, and fueling the media.

If that were to be the case, why has it taken 25 years to get to this point?

 

[Mr Hatem]

Methane breaks down into CO2.

Only if you burn it in plenty of oxygen.

 

[Des Head]

Only if you burn it in plenty of oxygen.

Then it's a good job there's no oxygen in our atmosphere.

 

[Off The Line]

It doesn't take much digging to see that it's politics rather than science driving the issues, and fueling the media.

I'm sure it doesn't, they've probably paid good money to make the info so accessible.

 

[DMD]

Then it's a good job there's no oxygen in our atmosphere.

So if the current media bites are correct, that's global warming solved if there's no CO2 along with the hydroxyl radicals then.

 

[The Omega Man]

Here’s my view.

The biggest outcome for me of COP 26 may be that posters on a football forum are debating climate change. If that awareness and debate is replicated around the world, then it is an unimaginable success.

I look forward to the news report that features two Taliban saying to the reporter that DMD made a great point but that graph was just great.