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Off Topic Conspiracy Thread

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Building 7, Aug 7, 2016.

  1. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Well-Known Member

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    You're all mad.

    99% of the **** in this thread is complete bollocks, and I've only read the last page...
     
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  2. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    So you made a wrong assumption based on nothing? Outfuckingstanding.

    I didn't find anything right with the video. It was turd.
     
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  3. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    That's not good enough.

    Do you have a better one?
     
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  4. Building 7

    Building 7 Well-Known Member

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    This is mainstream news interview, but they still don't ask;
    'What did the female runner in green throw to you that you so brilliantly caught just before you fell ?'
    it's there, as clear as day 26 seconds in.
     
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  5. Carmine Galante.

    Carmine Galante. Well-Known Member

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    A bottle of water?
     
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  6. Building 7

    Building 7 Well-Known Member

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    Possibly , certainly an outstanding catch. I don't see a bottle of water in his hand or on the floor though.
     
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  7. The greengrocer

    The greengrocer Well-Known Member

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    Very well taken when being blown off his feet! Keep these coming 7 I find them intriguing! :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  8. Building 7

    Building 7 Well-Known Member

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    I haven't seen all of this clip so I'm not condoning it all. Have a look at 2.05 when a supposedly injured bystander gets up and moves around to get more comfy for the camera's. Imagine if they are paid crisis actors.
     
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  9. Spook

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    Some historians believe Stalin planned a full-scale invasion of Germany after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and that Operation Barbarossa was a pre-emptive defensive strike.

    It's classed as a conspiracy because only a few historians believe this theory and most WWII historians regard it as revisionism. Personally, I think Stalin planned for war and didn't trust Hitler at all, just as Hitler didn't trust him. The Nazi Party made it public knowledge that they intended to create lebensraum in the 'east' for ethnic Germans to populate so Stalin and the Soviet high command must have anticipated that Hitler was planning to invade Russia at some point; it was just a matter of when. The historians who believe the theory that Stalin intended to invade Germany and all of Europe to spread communism refer to the fact the Red Army increased its strength from 1,871,600 in 1939 to 5,081,000 in 1941 and that they had millions more reservists. However, going back to the lebensraum point, the Soviets could have increased their military in anticipation of a German invasion.
     
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  10. Barchullona

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    Some historians believe completely differently. You pays your money and you takes your choice as they say...
    Stalin ignoring warnings about Barbarossa and executing one of his own agents who told him it was imminent ,not believing warnings through agents instructed by Goering, who didn't want to risk losing his cushy lifestyle, and others from our secret services suggest otherwise. The .German troops invading USSR passed trains carrying raw materials as part of their pact with the Nazis.
     
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  11. terrifictraore

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    bloggers and other no marks on tinternet espousing wild theories is not an investigation.
     
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  12. terrifictraore

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    The theory re stalin is certainly credible and one of the main reasons why it gets rejected in the west is because people view it as justifying german actions. As we all now "know " Germany were the bad boys of WW2 therefore every action they took had evil intentions.
     
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  13. Barchullona

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    Go on then, list a few of the Nazis good intentions.
     
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  14. Carmine Galante.

    Carmine Galante. Well-Known Member

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    I really don't get where you're coming from.

    Big explosion and a runner catches something thrown at him.

    ??
     
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  15. Carmine Galante.

    Carmine Galante. Well-Known Member

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    I'm with you on this one pal.

    I've seen a documentary on that Roswell pile of **** before and I'm not prepared to waste any more time on it.

    It looks like something a bunch of 6 th formers have cobbled together.

    Proper turd.

    End of.
     
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  16. Spook

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    Destroy Bolshevism? Make revolutionary strides in technology?
     
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  17. Carmine Galante.

    Carmine Galante. Well-Known Member

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    Oh Jesus, what have we started here?
     
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  18. terrifictraore

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    Full employment, social mobility, anti capitalist. seem decent enough principles to me
     
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  19. Spook

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    Dunno, mate. I despise Nazism and fascism. Just offered some hypothetical examples of the Nazi's 'good intentions'.
     
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  20. Spook

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    The Nazis ceased to be anti-capitalist when Otto Strasser left the party and Gregor Strasser was purged during the Night of the Long Knives.

    Before the purge, the Nazis were divided into two factions. The Strasserites were the radical 'left-wing' of the party who placed an emphasis on socialism over nationalism but were still German nationalists; the true 'national socialists' so to speak. The Hitlerites were the staunch followers of Hitler who believed in the Fuhrer principle and focused on biological racism and Aryanism primarily, whilst promoting nationalist state capitalism and class collaboration/social mobility. The Strasserites were nationalists and socialists but were not interested in racial purity like Hitler and his supporters. In fact, when Otto Strasser was expelled in 1930 for opposing Hitler he founded the Black Front movement and his right-hand man was a German Jew.
     
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