Congratulations JWP and Nathan

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Character is mentioned as one of the things that Saints look out for in players....i.e. no dickheads*. In the Academy, that can be taught if you are given a young lad eager to progress. They punish youngsters by withdrawing playing privileges....the only thing that really hurts. Treat the lads with respect, fill them with hope and they learn that positive behaviour gets positive results. Must be much harder if your catchment area is a seedy city area, where they remain influenced by their old friends.

*there have been dishonourable exceptions.

Hang on. Doesn't JWP come from Pompey?
 
However, I think because of the "all footballers are idiots" stereotype, all it takes is one player to just be relatively well spoken and people will start thinking he is a genius!

I'm not saying that. Simply that JWP's use of language is unusual. Rooney was a football genius at a tender age, but would hardly have been called eloquent. The way he was parodied in the press annoyed me. In his pomp he was brilliant at playing football - what more did we want him to do? He is not stupid, and despite everything seems a very level human being who is very generous with his time and money in supporting charities. But no-one would ever describe him as an eloquent speaker.

JWP's eloquence is icing on the cake. He is an intelligent footballer who has improved dramatically this season, and that's what I judge him on first and foremost. My other point was that JWP would probably kill to have Rooney's natural ability, but he is a hard working intelligent guy who makes the best of his talent. Comparisons with Beckham spring to mind!
 
I just had the terrible thought of how devastated they would be if one of these two gets an injury against Spurs. Really hope they actually make it to the England camp after all this celebration!

Now I am going to be super nervous every time they get tackled.:emoticon-0107-sweat
 
I just had the terrible thought of how devastated they would be if one of these two gets an injury against Spurs. Really hope they actually make it to the England camp after all this celebration!

Now I am going to be super nervous every time they get tackled.:emoticon-0107-sweat
I want them all to remain fit and get to the England camp, but I want to beat Spurs even more.
 
JWP's eloquence is icing on the cake. He is an intelligent footballer who has improved dramatically this season, and that's what I judge him on first and foremost. My other point was that JWP would probably kill to have Rooney's natural ability, but he is a hard working intelligent guy who makes the best of his talent. Comparisons with Beckham spring to mind!

I think Claude's just said that JWP is a joy to work with and ideal son-in-law material?? Sure that's what he said! Nathan, on the other hand, could listen a bit more. Oh well, you can't win em all.

I remember reading an article a couple of years ago, I think it was following an interview with Alan Pardew, that suggested we were populating the premier league with "middle class" footballers, and how difficult it would be for the Mersons and Gascoignes of this world to fit in these days.
 
I think Claude's just said that JWP is a joy to work with and ideal son-in-law material?? Sure that's what he said! Nathan, on the other hand, could listen a bit more. Oh well, you can't win em all.

I remember reading an article a couple of years ago, I think it was following an interview with Alan Pardew, that suggested we were populating the premier league with "middle class" footballers, and how difficult it would be for the Mersons and Gascoignes of this world to fit in these days.

Yep, he said that. Here are the quotes: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/s...29.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
 
I think Claude's just said that JWP is a joy to work with and ideal son-in-law material?? Sure that's what he said! Nathan, on the other hand, could listen a bit more. Oh well, you can't win em all.

Do you reckon Nathan's listening more now?!

I thought he was a good player when he signed for us, but just lately he has been transformed. His work with Ryan Bertrand hasn't done him any harm. After the semi-final at Anfield, a Liverpool mate told me he thought Nathan was "bloody terrifying". Still, I'm sure the Reds could make him mediocre again.