well I said De Gea has had a very good season on the tread about team of the year, and that there was not much between Hart De Gea and Cech but Cech has been by a small margin the no1 no1 this year, but obviously De Gea by far the most improved so up yer arse De Gea is great shot stopper, but Cech is a great keeper. hart, great shot stopper good commanding his area but prone to total ****ups.
interestingly we can easily determine that by going back to the stats saves per shots rate Simon Mignolet : 134/181 = saved 74% of shots Asmir Begovic : 101/139 = saved 72% of shots Petr Cech: 109/139 = saved 78% of shots David De Gea: 90/112 = saved 80% of shots now what other excuses is next? http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/premierleague/stats?table=defensive&stat=saves
right so if I play a game for Chelsea, make 1/1 save and get 100% save rating does that make me amazing? Stats play a part naturally but it can't just be based on that. You can't compare the defences of United and Chelsea to Sunderland or Stoke,
you are right if we talk about one shoot or 2 or 5 or 10.. but we are talking about 100+ shoots and saves .. so sure you logic don't apply beside i was replying to his claim that other GK did more saves per shots compared to Gea or Cech which was not true
Funny this is these awards are based on this season, not last season. Off the top of my head I can think of two games we've conceded three goals. One of those games was against Readjng with Lindegaard in goal. The other was against Spurs and that was down to Rio and Evans playing terrible for the first 45 minutes.
And Mig has Bramble, Cuellar, O'Shea to protect him. So you are saying conceding goals was down to goals? Hahhaha. Sunderland or Man U- who offers greater defensive protection. Shot yourself in the foot mate.
All that proves is the more shots you have to save, the more goals you will concede. It is the circumstances in which the keepers play which you don't seem to grasp. De Gea has the best team in the country infront of him. This guy if played all season would probably have better stats than most of the others in the league. please log in to view this image
sure but what counts here is the rate not the numbers and sorry to disappoint you, but the same logic apply on Mignolet and Begovic playing with their teams sitting back and defending in numbers helping them while Gea left with fewer defenders to help him anyway don't see the logic of brining up the subject of the defenders, when a striker has a chance to shoot, what matter is what is the rate of each goalkeeper to save it ... you can refer to defenders quality if we are counting how much goals each GK conceded, but that is not what we are discussing
Don't forget you had One-nil as your manager for the majority of the season. How often were you set up not to concede? Or perhaps the easier question would be how often we're you not set up to not concede? Up until February we set out to score more than the other team in every game. Our midfield provided very little if any cover for the defense and we weren't playing wingers to help cover the fullbacks. Whether or not you want to admit, but De Gea deserves to be in PFA team of the year. As Shwan posted earlier, he has the highest shots to saves ratio in the league, and he's made a bunch world class saves that have kept us in games.
Ok De Gea has better defenders in front of him, but did Mignolet ever have to play against the likes of Ronaldo eh? No, most of the times it is just Grant Holt and Adebayor, sorry got a bit carried away.
I think the fact that "Indestructible" is talking about the defensive quality is hilarious bcz we are not talking about who conceded less goals here ..
Put de gea in Stoke or Sunderlands team. Really think his stats would look as good as Begovic and Mig then? Red_or_dead- does it take in to account no PL games? Shwan- are seriously suggesting that Man U play completely gung-ho? That their defence is on a par with Sunderlands, it is just the difference in playing style? You are doing yourself a disservice.
Maybe indestructible but you also not considering that if Begovic played for us every little mistake he made would be made a big deal of, I can imagine Begovic's flaws are mostly forgotten and not highlighted by the media. Either way I doubt there is a United fan in the world that would swap De Gea for those you are talking about and I also believe a lot of the big teams would pick him other those 2 as well.
I'm not saying he isn't a top keeper, far from it. He's class. As is Begovic, Mig and Cech. But most of the people on only mentioned De Gea and Cech. Why is that, by virtue of playing for Man U and Chelsea? People mention the ABU brigade, yet these are the same people who can't see past their own team. Nice to see there are sensible poeple though. I don't know if this is true of Stoke, but Sunderland would have been down with QPR and Reading by now if it wasn't for Mignolet. And as for Begovics flaws, again I can't say, but as for Mignolet, his positioning wasn't great last season. He has come on leaps and bounds. He truly deserves to be in a team challenging for top European honours.
