1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Confirmed: Russell Martin has been sacked

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Osvaldorama, Sep 19, 2023.

?

Martin out?

  1. Right now, he's worse than Guardiola

    90.5%
  2. Give him one more game

    0.9%
  3. Give him until next international break

    0.9%
  4. Stick with him, he'll turn it round

    5.2%
  5. No point in sacking now, wait until end of the season

    2.6%
  1. Brinkworth Saint

    Brinkworth Saint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2012
    Messages:
    2,785
    Likes Received:
    3,328
    I have thought for some time that will be a decider. Man City is a free one, albeit pretty expensive for GD for us probably, if Stoke come and walk away winners then still not sure if the trap door will open but lose against the Toffees, that’s curtains for RM and I really like the guy and pleased with last year but enough is enough. If not then the obvious plan is to fall back into the Championship again along with a record number of successive games lost in the PL. That’s not a record any of us want!!
     
    #1561
  2. Shandy_top_89

    Shandy_top_89 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2015
    Messages:
    4,210
    Likes Received:
    5,968
    Aye, but I still rate him higher than Jones as a manager. Not that it counts for much.
     
    #1562
  3. LincolnSaint

    LincolnSaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2011
    Messages:
    3,664
    Likes Received:
    7,380

    He's nicer as a person, for sure. Demonstrably not a better manager though. It was NJ's abrasiveness which done for him, Martin had credit in the bank, which surely must be exhausted for 90% of the fan base now.

    I still genuinely don't understand how fans aren't turning this on Sports Republic yet, they've a worse PL record than Gao and Lowe and yet fans still think we've got good owners. It's mental.
     
    #1563
    Saints Fan4Life likes this.
  4. Shandy_top_89

    Shandy_top_89 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2015
    Messages:
    4,210
    Likes Received:
    5,968
    Not sure really, would have to see how Jones would have handled us in the Championship for true comparison, which I know goes against my argument too.

    I see signs of some form of coaching and plan with RM, even if it’s not working.

    Jones just seemed to send them out with ‘kick the fackin ball’ as tactics and the players looked like complete strangers.
     
    #1564
    Saints Fan4Life likes this.
  5. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2011
    Messages:
    23,366
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    I wonder if it's because there isn't that one person to aim at. Different decisions being made by different people. For example: appointing Jones seemed to be Ankersen's decision; appointing Martin seemed to be Wilcox's decision; changing the stadium layout seemed to be Parsons' decision.

    It's more difficult to turn on an organisation like SR, than a person like Lowe.
     
    #1565
    LincolnSaint likes this.
  6. LincolnSaint

    LincolnSaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2011
    Messages:
    3,664
    Likes Received:
    7,380

    That's a fair point. Lowe put himself front and centre. Sports Republic is some faceless entity so that probably massively de-personalises any hostility.

    Either way our club is totally ****ed until they're gone. Utter utter bell-ends
     
    #1566
    Lovelocum and Saints Fan4Life like this.
  7. LincolnSaint

    LincolnSaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2011
    Messages:
    3,664
    Likes Received:
    7,380

    And still managed more points <laugh>

    They should have pulled the plug on Martin directly after Wembley, would have been harsh but we all knew he wasn't capable of managing in the PL, I don't know how they didn't see it.
     
    #1567
    milton archer and Billy Bates like this.
  8. Brixham Saint

    Brixham Saint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2015
    Messages:
    2,400
    Likes Received:
    2,038
    He’s got to go now but SR won’t do it yet. They’ll leave him in place until the next international break.
    Thought we were excellent 1st half, but once we conceded you can see the inevitable happening. Players can see what’s coming as well and unfortunately RM seems to have no clue on how to change this from week to week.
    We started not closing down, and conceding again from no man pushing out on the edge of the area is becoming school boyish play.
    Just feel that the players need a new voice.
     
    #1568
  9. Puck

    Puck Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2012
    Messages:
    5,695
    Likes Received:
    2,601
    They also spend money, which gets owners a fair amount of goodwill.
     
    #1569
  10. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    14,799
    Likes Received:
    14,157
    Sekou mara’s just scored against PSG FFS

    We are genuinely cursed as a club
     
    #1570
    Le Tissier's Laces likes this.

  11. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    43,615
    Likes Received:
    50,192
    I’m having a lot more fun this season checking out how rejected ex Saints are getting on.
     
    #1571
  12. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    43,615
    Likes Received:
    50,192
    Scores and assists…
     
    #1572
  13. Saints Fan4Life

    Saints Fan4Life Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2011
    Messages:
    17,682
    Likes Received:
    11,192
    Nah, Sekou just likes to turn it on against the big clubs. Looked a world beater against City for us as well.
     
    #1573
  14. Shandy_top_89

    Shandy_top_89 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2015
    Messages:
    4,210
    Likes Received:
    5,968
    No club would have done that tbf.

    Except maybe Sheffield Wednesday with Darren Moore last season, but that was because their owner is a nutcase.
     
    #1574
  15. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2011
    Messages:
    85,329
    Likes Received:
    90,360
    Which is a nice reminder of just how worse things could be on the owners front.
     
    #1575
    thereisonlyoneno7 likes this.
  16. Paddy Podped

    Paddy Podped Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2011
    Messages:
    6,113
    Likes Received:
    5,730
    I’d rate Martin above Jones certainly. Jones had six weeks prep time with a squad and made them look worse .


    Jones and Pellegrino are the only managers I’ve ever actively wanted out and hoped would be moved on , regardless of who the next man in would be.



    With Russell I don’t necessarily want him gone but have come to an acceptance it’s probably for the best , but do have some apprehension of what options might be out there available and willing



    It’s also quite possible SR don’t sack him simply because they’ve tried to find someone already with no success , so will stick until it becomes untenable to do so
     
    #1576
    Last edited: Oct 19, 2024
  17. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    43,615
    Likes Received:
    50,192
    Yeah, similar for me.
     
    #1577
  18. Lovelocum

    Lovelocum Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2011
    Messages:
    9,579
    Likes Received:
    5,531
    I just don’t know why they would keep him. For next season in the championship? To try and get promotion again, only to fail abysmally in the PL? What’s the end game? There are managers out there who can get us promoted and still make a better go of the PL.
     
    #1578
  19. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    14,799
    Likes Received:
    14,157
    He’s a nice bloke.

    Maybe they’re hoping he learns from this season, we go down, come straight back up with a more experienced manager
     
    #1579
    Toss saints likes this.
  20. Lovelocum

    Lovelocum Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2011
    Messages:
    9,579
    Likes Received:
    5,531
    It seems like he hasn’t learnt a thing in eight games and is resolute that he won’t be changing things. None of his ‘tweaks’ or ‘adjustments’ have addressed any of our problems.

    I agree he’s a nice bloke and a good man-manager.
     
    #1580
    LincolnSaint likes this.

Share This Page