Coleman

I know you're talking fantasy but what makes you think that pep would have saved us? He's spent 1 billion in 9 years as a manager at rich, powerful established clubs. He's a charlatan, a cheque book manager he's never had to bring a squad together through adversity and never will. In a situation relative to ours he'd be no better than Warnock.
Sorry for the rant I just don't go along with the sky sports cock sucking of pep. He's just a fashionable sports personality like Anthony Joshua and like Joshua he's far from the best in his field just the most marketable and in a privileged position.

There's little evidence he would know what he was doing in our situation but he'd have the players believing in themselves and at least we'd be attacking. Doesn't matter anyway, I just picked the managers of the top two teams in the country, could have been anyone. Pochettino and Conte if you prefer.
 
Get the dream team in of Neil Lennon & PDC. Two managers who will give the players a right good f*cking beating if they dont perform.

I couldnt give a flying one if the team bus crashed and every one of the c*nts had a leg amputated. It certainly wouldnt make them any f*cking worse than they already are.
 
Yet another “little general” thread who asks for opinions but ignores all previous! Who do you want instead as you want him gone? Who, in their right mind, would take this on?

Yes I would keep Coleman. He’s improved out points per game from previous manager and NONE of what’s happening is his fault
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**** manager , he was a **** footballer , as well. eric gates deserves a go

Strangest thing i've ever read in my life. He doesn't have coaching badges you divy, part time pundit full time gee gee gambler and pig farmer. Probably knows more about horse racing than football, and you know nowt about Gatesy clearly.
 
Strangest thing i've ever read in my life. He doesn't have coaching badges you divy, part time pundit full time gee gee gambler and pig farmer. Probably knows more about horse racing than football, and you know nowt about Gatesy clearly.
whey ,at least he has the club at heart . better than that fooker hew
 
Yes I would keep him. Look back the four months he's been in charge.
  • Inherited a terrible squad of players who all have a loosing mentality, half of whom want to move on.
  • Rodwell (say no more)
  • Injuries a plenty to key players
  • ****e keepers
  • Red card suspensions
  • An absent chairman who can't bother his arse to fly over and meet his manager.
  • No investment in playing staff
  • A half empty stadium where a significant number of ' fans' are on the players backs the minute a mistake is made.
Could any manager in the world manage a club successfully with all of the above to contend with?

I think not!

"significant number of ' fans' are on the players backs the minute a mistake is made."

Dorset nails this one for me - this is a big factor in our fortunes as we were always the 12th man and we always made the stadium a fortress.

I've been to many games over the years and when our crowd get behind the team it makes the hairs on your neck stand up and that must transmit to the field.

I'm not saying its the whole story but I would be daring enough to say its a big part of it.

 
I don't get this blaming the crowd for the teams shortcomings, not one bit. No crowd on earth would have shown as much faith as we have. The players are not up to the task, its as simple as that. No one can sustain hope season after season when its so obvious that we have not got a team that is worth supporting. Its up to the clubs custodians to do something about it, not the crowd. Fourth biggest crowd in this division is amazing loyalty considering the fare on offer.
 
I don't get this blaming the crowd for the teams shortcomings, not one bit. No crowd on earth would have shown as much faith as we have. The players are not up to the task, its as simple as that. No one can sustain hope season after season when its so obvious that we have not got a team that is worth supporting. Its up to the clubs custodians to do something about it, not the crowd. Fourth biggest crowd in this division is amazing loyalty considering the fare on offer.

I don't think anyone is primarily blaming the crowd. The people who sort out the transfer budget (Short and co), the players (who aren't performing) and the manager (who cannot mask the inadequacies of the others) are more to blame but I do think that the last few seasons have understandably taken it out of the home supporters and they are pretty much waiting for it to go wrong each week. Yes it is up to the players to try and give them some hope and belief that is going to happen but support isn't just about turning up.

All clubs have peaks and troughs and the levels of fans going through the gates at Sunderland at the moment is a credit to the area given the ****e they've had to put up with. That said, I'm not sure it's a ground new players will have been hankering to play at when Coleman was recruiting in January.
 
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I don't think anyone is primarily blaming the crowd. The people who sort out the transfer budget (Short and co), the players (who aren't performing) and the manager (who cannot mask the inadequacies of the others) are more to blame but I do think that the last few seasons have understandably taken it out of the home supporters and they are pretty much waiting for it to go wrong each week. Yes it is up to the players to try and give them some hope and belief that is going to happen but support isn't just about turning up.

All clubs have peaks and troughs and the levels of fans going through the gates at Sunderland at the moment is a credit to the area given the ****e they've had to put up with. That said, I'm not sure it's a ground new players will have been hankering to play at when Coleman was recruiting in January.
When it comes to getting players in we have never seemed to get our first choices in. Even our plans B,C and D struggle to go over the line. Instead we get inferior players at the last minute in desperation, in the past at inflated prices and wages. Managers are always gonna struggle to get results in this case.
 
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"significant number of ' fans' are on the players backs the minute a mistake is made."

Dorset nails this one for me - this is a big factor in our fortunes as we were always the 12th man and we always made the stadium a fortress.

I've been to many games over the years and when our crowd get behind the team it makes the hairs on your neck stand up and that must transmit to the field.

I'm not saying its the whole story but I would be daring enough to say its a big part of it.
you cant get behind Oshea and Kone they are behinde the goal anyway or at least they play as if they are
 
When it comes to getting players in we have never seemed to get our first choices in. Even our plans B,C and D struggle to go over the line. Instead we get inferior players at the last minute in desperation, in the past at inflated prices and wages. Managers are always gonna struggle to get results in this case.

have you sent a letter to Rodwell about this
 
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