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Coleman gets a Chinese

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  1. Steve300002

    Steve300002 Active Member

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    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    I never had Chris down as a money chaser like
     
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    Paperback Ruiter Well-Known Member

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    Shows his ambition. All talk imo
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Seems exactly the sort to do that to be honest. I've got nowt against it. I'm chasing as much money as I possibly can so don't see why others shouldn't.
     
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    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

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    Hope he does well.
     
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  7. Nacho

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    Can't blame him for taking that role given the salary. Can't see him doing very well either unless he's fluent in Chinese and knows the league inside out. If success there comes down to team selection and tactics he's not exactly a genius there is he.
     
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  8. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan
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    Chris Coleman now seems to me to be like a second David Moyes, who, in hindsight, should have stayed at Everton.

    Coleman didn't do very well at either Coventry or Fulham, but he achieved relative success with Wales (maybe because of patriotism bonding the players which he 'hit lucky' with) and he should have stayed with them, but maybe he knew that he'd reached a peak there and that's why he took the well paid job here.

    Comparisons between the two may be a bit loose to some, but I get the impression that he's taken this new job because he knows that he's not capable of being successful over here, and if somebody offers 'silly money' he'd be daft to turn it down :emoticon-0112-wonde

    He's proven to me from his short stint at S.A.F.C. that he isn't even a decent manager, but I still wish him well :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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    Aye - it rankles with some but I'm all for a manager trying to earn as much coin as he can. I'm certainly trying to! Would like to retire in my 50s if I can and have worked out what I need to do that from the NHS and my singing!
     
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    He come to Sunderland for the money didnt he?
     
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    I don't agree with it when a player in their prime playing for a top side trades money and glory for just more money, but Coleman going to China is like Cattermole going to China, if anyone's daft enough to pay him a fortune to go there then milk it for all it's worth.
     
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    If I stop working before I'm 70 it will be because I'm dead.

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  14. marcusblackcat

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    Think that's what I meant - a player going to play in a tin pot league for an extra £5m a year shows no ambition and is greedy. A manager who has failed (albeit with little help from the powers that be) is offered silly money to manage in another country - go for it!
     
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    With admittedly very little knowledge of the Chinese league, I'd hazard a guess that even Chris Coleman could do ok if he's got players like Ezequiel Lavezzi, Javier Mascherano, Hernanes, and Gervinho, who've all played for big European clubs, at his disposal. Having said that, I don't think he's as bad a manager as he's being made out on here. Most managers are only as good as the squad at their disposal, it's a rare skill to be able to make any given team play above themselves, and when he was here he was managing a club in the doldrums, with very little going for it.
     
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    Not sure about that, he offered to take a pay cut to stay with us in league one.

    I can't fault his reasons for coming to Sunderland. Its the outcome of his stint here I find fault with (albeit he didn't have any help from Short and Bain)
     
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    Aye I wasn't disagreeing with you just quoted you as a jumping off point, I suppose for a manager at a low point it's also a chance to get his career back on track in a relatively low risk job so a sensible move all round.
     
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