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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by The RDBD, Jun 30, 2017.

  1. Spurf

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    In a couple of years it would be expected that Newcastle would be taking up a top 4 place so Spurs need to take of advantage of NOW with Conte as manager it won't get much better trying to establish the club with the top 4. The chances are we will see top 4 being intermittent for all clubs with a top 6 or even 8. The course right now suggests tougher competition for all in the PL.
     
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  2. The RDBD

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    I cannot see the Toon escaping the on-paper wrath of UEFA FFP,
    given the player transfer/wage spend likely to be done to
    get to that position.

    I say "on-paper" , because of course to paraphrase a saying :

    To know who rules over [UEFA], see [which club( owner)s
    they] are not allowed to [severely punish under UEFA FFP rules] .
     
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  3. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Really is crazy how much difference CL and no CL makes.

    It makes getting top four this season feel so imperative for a club like us.

    Brian’s already listed some good points and as Spurf has also said, with Toon's new riches (they’ll get around FFP just like the rest do) we’ve gotta capitalise now because in one or two years time top four could be a race between 8 or so clubs, and if we’re still a chaser by then having not secured it for this and next season, we’ll be massive outsiders to get it, more so than we are now.

    Reports from The Athletic today do claim that whilst we’re not touting ourselves about, the club would be more open to listening to offers (I actually think that’s been the case for a while) but with a supposed valuation of £3bn, it’s tough to see anyone being overly interested at the moment unless they go for portion of shares and not a large majority stake of say 80+%. Some investment would be most welcome though.
     
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  4. PowerSpurs

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    Every season that any club doesn't get to the CL it is a setback. You essentially have to improve while also losing income. It is nearly impossible to guarantee qualification every year though. So unless we have access to unlimited dirty money it is always going to be a struggle. It isn't really about investment because there won't be a monetary return at the level needed for anyone other than a money launderer or a fan to put their wealth at risk.
     
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  5. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Doesn't have to be dirty money. Lot easier to clean than people would realise.
     
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  6. PleaseNotPoll

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    Aye, that's canny like.
     
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  7. Spurf

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    Are you deserting us for Newcastle PNP
     
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    No, I'm not into punching horses or beheading journalists.
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

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    Not even Julia Halfwit Brewer?
     
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    Horse or journalist? <confused>
     
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  11. humanbeingincroydon

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    EA took somebody literally when they asked why the Spurs Birds weren't in FIFA
     
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  12. The RDBD

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  13. SpursDisciple

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    I wonder if this has legs
     
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  14. PowerSpurs

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    The story it is based on looks full of holes as the reason given for turning it down is that 'the Club' doesn't want to relist on the Stock Exchange which would be a requirement for a full or partial investment by this type of buyer. Of course if the new buyer owned more than 50% they would control the Club’s decision on this.
    So perhaps it is a proposal to buy a stake at a £3b valuation. If that were true it would be good news as there may be other buyers at a similar price and an injection of cash is just what we need.
     
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  15. The Huddlefro

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    There were rumours during the January window of investment potential, with the view being that Levy and ENIC would rather sell a stake and retain control than sell a controlling stake.

    I think if ENIC ever want to sell control of the club for anything like the valuation they seem to have in mind then they’re recognising that getting investment will shorten the horizons by helping us improve on the pitch and pay down debt.
     
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  16. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Something's been rumoured for a while. It's been suggested that the club's looking for outside investment, but not a sale, other than at a price too good to turn down. The Singaporean businessman Forrest Li was heavily rumoured to be 'the chosen one' but that's gone pretty dead since the new year.

    It's the right move, but as with so many other potential deals, Daniel Levy's valuation would need to be shared by another party in negotiations...
     
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  17. humanbeingincroydon

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    Putting aside the source behind it is Tier 101's favourite son Duncan Castles, given the person behind it is the nephew of George Soros I sincerely hope it doesn;t have legs

    The thought of having conspiracy nutters outside out stadium every matchday is not a pleasant one
     
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  18. The RDBD

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    A serious investor would probably be looking at cash
    injection for % stake in the Ltd, some "futures" valuation
    and T+Cs for potential buyout to become the majority owner etc.

    Cruelly speaking, IMHO it will probably need a quick
    serious decline in Uncle Joes's health for ENIC to sell,
    because as far as things Spurs-related go, he appears to
    be determined to live to see an NFL franchise awarded
    to the new WHL subsidiary.
     
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  19. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    A large part of the club's future is dependent upon the NFL tie-in. Achieving Levy's valuation of the naming rights depends on it. It's crucial to meeting the number of full stadium events allowed by the council.

    Put simply, the stadium itself wouldn't have been built as it has been, without the expectation of landing a franchise. It's not even the retractable pitch, the enormous East Stand dressing rooms or equipping the stadium for American tv equipment, the whole cost and fit out is that of an American stadium.

    I don't see another stadium being built anything like it in the UK for that reason. Until a franchise is secured, the club will be marking time.
     
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  20. The RDBD

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    The Corona chaos has blown the events side of things.
    Cannot put that on ENIC (but it is absolutely < standard > ) ,

    However. maintaining and improving upon the on-pitch
    levels reached during the Pochettino tenure, is on ENIC
    (specifically an international increase in broadcast TV
    viewing of Spurs games is what brings a "big fish" sponsor
    to the naming rights table) .

    Which would mean that the NFL stuff would be the
    long-term big bonus bringer and not potentially an
    all or nothing scenario.
     
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