Off Topic Climate change/ pollution

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Heimdallr said:
That article is a bit like having an article that states that a bus or train produces more emissions than a car. It's true, but it's not the whole picture - showing the amount of energy produced per unit of emissions, or emissions produced per average end user and then comparing the power stations would be a better comparison, but probably not an interesting article.

It's the Guardian, isn't it. So the average user is going to be reading it specifically for environmental concern articles, so the editor commissions something that will encourage readers to read it. Same reason that the Daily Mail incessantly posts about immigration and Megan Markle.
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Ah the old never mind the story look at where it's published, it's the Guardian, it's the Daily Mail, it's GB News, even it's the BBC.
I agree the main Drax produces more emissions that the coal plant lacks details but it is an opening for readers to go and find out more, and question what is going on. It mentions the amount of subsidies, wood chip from North America, further subsidies for capturing the carbon they emit by burning the wood.

But alternatively it's in the Guardian, nothing to see here move along.
 
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balkan tiger said:
Ah the old never mind the story look at where it's published, it's the Guardian, it's the Daily Mail, it's GB News, even it's the BBC.
I agree the main Drax produces more emissions that the coal plant lacks details but it is an opening for readers to go and find out more, and question what is going on. It mentions the amount of subsidies, wood chip from North America, further subsidies for capturing the carbon they emit by burning the wood.

But alternatively it's in the Guardian, nothing to see here move along.
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I mean, you always have to look at the source and factor it into the article, right?

The biggest scandal in the article is that shareholders are being paid dividends when the business is reliant on subsidies to survive.
 
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balkan tiger said:
Ah the old never mind the story look at where it's published, it's the Guardian, it's the Daily Mail, it's GB News, even it's the BBC.
I agree the main Drax produces more emissions that the coal plant lacks details but it is an opening for readers to go and find out more, and question what is going on. It mentions the amount of subsidies, wood chip from North America, further subsidies for capturing the carbon they emit by burning the wood.

But alternatively it's in the Guardian, nothing to see here move along.
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It's a fair point in this case, as though it's true that Drax generates four times the emissions, it generates over eleven times the power, so it's still far more efficient.

Though the whole set-up at Drax still seems really dodgy.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
It's a fair point in this case, as though it's true that Drax generates four times the emissions, it generates over eleven times the power, so it's still far more efficient.

Though the whole set-up at Drax still seems really dodgy.
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It may generate more power because it's bigger, so it may not be more efficient. I agree that on this the article is very vague and that the whole set up seems dodgy.
 
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Cityzen said:
People on here celebrating the re-opening of an airport. They should be shutting them down as a sign of our commitment to net zero and saving the planet. People should be restricted to one return flight a year.
I am sure all those who go on about the need for us to take the lead and show the world the way forward will agree.
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Not a chance, it would be impossible to do my job, I've so far this year taken 11 trips which has totalled 25 flights, all long haul bar 2 internal flights.... I do use paper straws though so it's all cancelled out
 
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Howdentiger2 said:
Not a chance, it would be impossible to do my job, I've so far this year taken 11 trips which has totalled 25 flights, all long haul bar 2 internal flights.... I do use paper straws though so it's all cancelled out
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How did you manage during covid?

The only reason I'm asking this, is my Eldest Daughter's a Civil Servant who has to travel to London on frequent occasions(by flight,sometimes train).During covid they switched to 'Zoom' meetings which appeared to be as effective?

Don't get me wrong,they're back to their face to face 'jollies' but in reality that long period of lockdowns proved they aren't strictly necessary.
 
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Howdentiger2 said:
Not a chance, it would be impossible to do my job, I've so far this year taken 11 trips which has totalled 25 flights, all long haul bar 2 internal flights.... I do use paper straws though so it's all cancelled out
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The eco bloke saying that said that there should be a large tax on frequent fliers. There is no need in this day with the technology available. Heathrow should be taxed out of existence was another of his suggestions. More confirmation that eco zealots and greens are fruit loops.
The new government is, you will be pleased to know, is giving £11 billion to aid countries with green initiatives. One of the recipients from that fund is in the process of building 27 new airports and building 50 new coal fired power stations. Pity we can’t find a way to keep people on £11,400 a year pension warm after cutting their Winter Fuel allowance.
 
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Ric Glasgow said:
How did you manage during covid?

The only reason I'm asking this, is my Eldest Daughter's a Civil Servant who has to travel to London on frequent occasions(by flight,sometimes train).During covid they switched to 'Zoom' meetings which appeared to be as effective?

Don't get me wrong,they're back to their face to face 'jollies' but in reality that long period of lockdowns proved they aren't strictly necessary.
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We still do a heck of a lot via online meeting platforms, but to do the actual physical on site stuff, important meetings to close things etc I always do it face to face, plus I'm a little old School and always prefer things face to face when trying to grow things in new regions
 
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Ric Glasgow said:
How did you manage during covid?

The only reason I'm asking this, is my Eldest Daughter's a Civil Servant who has to travel to London on frequent occasions(by flight,sometimes train).During covid they switched to 'Zoom' meetings which appeared to be as effective?

Don't get me wrong,they're back to their face to face 'jollies' but in reality that long period of lockdowns proved they aren't strictly necessary.
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I still had to fly every 15 days when i started employed work again in 2021 - we had to go in quarantine for two days before and after and take a test just before the flight. Still had outbreaks at work but most worked through it after 24 hours bed rest, because if not, there were problems as we were down to skeleton essential staff.
 
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"Elderly people often do not perceive thirst, so we should keep an extra eye on them"

Someone should inform the pensionist beer monsters on here...
 
originallambrettaman said:
The last three years have been really high, last year there were 47,000 deaths attributed to the heat in Europe, the year before was 61,000.
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You need to look in to how those figures are generated before accepting them at face value. Many of the figures churned out for a variety of topics, even from official bodies would not be up to a standard that would pass an O level.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
The last three years have been really high, last year there were 47,000 deaths attributed to the heat in Europe, the year before was 61,000.
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According to what measure? How many died in 1976?

If we are going to be policing social media for fake news, we should be looking at main stream media too.
 
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