Claudio Ranieri appointed

[AKCJ]

I kinda see your point, but accosting players by the throat, and rants about Ostriches etc? The guy is not right!
Plus he obviously didn't set a very example as a parent if his sons behaviour is to go by.

Nah. If Mourinho or Van Gaal had called someone an ostrich then the press would have been giggling about it for weeks. They Press have their friends and their enemies. They don't like Nige because he's closed and keeps emotion out of interviews.


As for the second sentence...really?

 

[Bodinki]

Nah. If Mourinho or Van Gaal had called someone an ostrich then the press would have been giggling about it for weeks. They Press have their friends and their enemies. They don't like Nige because he's closed and keeps emotion out of interviews.


As for the second sentence...really?

hehe, it wasn't that he called him an Ostrich, it was that he went mental and ranted.
But even before that, it was the throat grabbing that got me!
Went psycho because some player was tackled and fell against his leg, and he looked like he wanted to eviscerate him.

The son part I realise has nothing to do with football, or his temperament, it was just tacky

 

[AKCJ]

hehe, it wasn't that he called him an Ostrich, it was that he went mental and ranted.
But even before that, it was the throat grabbing that got me!
Went psycho because some player was tackled and fell against his leg, and he looked like he wanted to eviscerate him.

The son part I realise has nothing to do with football, or his temperament, it was just tacky

The mcCarthy incident isn't the first time he's done something like that.

The first time, Martyn Waghorn crashed into him and Pearson pretended to Rugby tackle him after.

Obviously under the scruitiny of the Premier League and after numerous defeats on the bounce it wasn't the time to re-do it. Especially to an opposition player.

The fact that McCarthy made nothing of it at the time and the fact that Pearson has a grin like a cheshire cat throughout tells you that it was meant and taken light heartedly.

 

[Bodinki]

The mcCarthy incident isn't the first time he's done something like that.

The first time, Martyn Waghorn crashed into him and Pearson pretended to Rugby tackle him after.

Obviously under the scruitiny of the Premier League and after numerous defeats on the bounce it wasn't the time to re-do it. Especially to an opposition player.

The fact that McCarthy made nothing of it at the time and the fact that Pearson has a grin like a cheshire cat throughout tells you that it was meant and taken light heartedly.

Indeed
It was also that he grabbed McArthur and wouldnt let him go back onto the field aswell, it was just weird.

 

[FosseFilberto]

Their millions or our millions, does it matter? It'll still be wasted money should we go down..

Yes it matters - if I don't get change out of a vending machine I'll live with it ... which is akin to our owners losing money on their hobby ...

..an "incredibly successful managerial career is a touch of an overstatement though.

He's been to some fantastic clubs, but has he really had any major success apart from Chelsea and Monaco?

I just don't see him taking us to the next level, whereas I think that Nigel would have.

Regularly qualifying for the Champions League in different countries doesn't count as being incredibly successful? Wow - it would in my book - it's certainly what most owners seem to crave .... whether I particularly wanted him as a manager or not I cannot find too much to fault in what he has acheived - and he earned his opportunities at those bigger clubs by those acheivements as far as I can see it - he wasn't just lucky to be passing through .

... Nigel Pearson's opportunity to take us to the next level was cut short - so we'll never know ... but I doubt Roma, Inter, Monaco, Juventus, Napoli, Valencia, Fiorentina, Parma or Athletico Madrid are busily trying to get his number ... and as such, I personally can't fathom why you would see Ranieri as less likely to take us to the next level than Nigel? ... other than just a feeling in your water?

 

[MIAMI_FOX]

I think Lennon and Alladyce would have been a better match for the club. I'm not suggesting that Ranieri has an inferior CV to Lennon or anything daft like that.

I don't think we'll go down, but I think we'll have a dull and frustrating season culminating in us parting ways this time next summer after a huge compensation pay out leaving us back to square one.

and you don't think having Lennon and BIG SAM would have resulted in a DULL season. I sure as hell do. Hoof ball Lennon and Big Sam. How nice! Dodged a bullet there. lol

 

[Proud Fox]

Ranieri is a crossover of Paulo Sousa and Sven

We play our best with fast paced football, get Schlupp, Mahrez and Albrighton down the wing, getting Vardy behind the defence

Ranieri will play the Sousa way while chasing Sven's players

Its a recipe for disaster

 

[FosseFilberto]

Ranieri is a crossover of Paulo Sousa and Sven

We play our best with fast paced football, get Schlupp, Mahrez and Albrighton down the wing, getting Vardy behind the defence

Ranieri will play the Sousa way while chasing Sven's players

Its a recipe for disaster

He deployed Damien Duff and Jesper Gronkjaer down the flanks whilst at Chelsea ... he signed Frank Lampard to get from box to box and provide a goal threat from midfield ... he also signed the previously relatively unknown Gianfranco Zola for Napoli ...

Frankly I've no idea how he'll want to set up or play ... and neither do you, let's be honest.

But I'm not going to write the guy off before I've seen what he intends.

 

[FosseFilberto]

Worth a read - what the Chelsea fans think of him ... if accurate it was apparently Ranieri who identified Cech and Robben ...

http://www.not606.com/threads/ranieri-at-leicester.305710/#post-8126436

 

[Proud Fox]

Worth a read - what the Chelsea fans think of him ... if accurate it was apparently Ranieri who identified Cech and Robben ...

http://www.not606.com/threads/ranieri-at-leicester.305710/#post-8126436

Again fosse. Leicester City wont be buying a Petr Cech or Arjen Robben

 

[Lesta Gangsta]

Yes it matters - if I don't get change out of a vending machine I'll live with it ... which is akin to our owners losing money on their hobby ...



Regularly qualifying for the Champions League in different countries doesn't count as being incredibly successful? Wow - it would in my book - it's certainly what most owners seem to crave .... whether I particularly wanted him as a manager or not I cannot find too much to fault in what he has acheived - and he earned his opportunities at those bigger clubs by those acheivements as far as I can see it - he wasn't just lucky to be passing through .

... Nigel Pearson's opportunity to take us to the next level was cut short - so we'll never know ... but I doubt Roma, Inter, Monaco, Juventus, Napoli, Valencia, Fiorentina, Parma or Athletico Madrid are busily trying to get his number ... and as such, I personally can't fathom why you would see Ranieri as less likely to take us to the next level than Nigel? ... other than just a feeling in your water?

So by your logic, Sven was a better appointment than Pearson? That's what our owners thought too. Only Sven moved us backwards, and Pearson returned and moved us forward. And maybe those clubs aren't scrambling for Pearson's number, but they weren't scrambling to bring Ranieri back either. He's been out of work eight months and after the disaster with Greece, he probably thought he'd never get a job again... until desperate old Leicester came along. You also talked about the experience on his CV would get any job in the real world (or words to that effect) - really? At 63? Monaco sacked him amid talk of wanting a "new dynamic."

So what are the feelings in your waters FF? Seriously. I didn't see many people say they wanted him after he announced interest. Although I think some people would support any manager as long as Pearson left - until the results start coming in.

 

[Lesta Gangsta]

Worth a read - what the Chelsea fans think of him ... if accurate it was apparently Ranieri who identified Cech and Robben ...

http://www.not606.com/threads/ranieri-at-leicester.305710/#post-8126436

Worth a read...

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/jul/14/claudio-ranieri-leicester-city-nigel-pearson

 

[AKCJ]

Yes it matters - if I don't get change out of a vending machine I'll live with it ... which is akin to our owners losing money on their hobby ...

I somehow doubt that they'll think the same way...I hope you don't think they're here for a mere hobby too

They're here to make money for King Power.

Regularly qualifying for the Champions League in different countries doesn't count as being incredibly successful? Wow - it would in my book - it's certainly what most owners seem to crave .... whether I particularly wanted him as a manager or not I cannot find too much to fault in what he has acheived - and he earned his opportunities at those bigger clubs by those acheivements as far as I can see it - he wasn't just lucky to be passing through .

Not when it''s the basic remit and you're spending more than the rest of the division. No.

... Nigel Pearson's opportunity to take us to the next level was cut short - so we'll never know ... but I doubt Roma, Inter, Monaco, Juventus, Napoli, Valencia, Fiorentina, Parma or Athletico Madrid are busily trying to get his number ... and as such, I personally can't fathom why you would see Ranieri as less likely to take us to the next level than Nigel? ... other than just a feeling in your water?

I bet Parma would love Pearson in, but that's besides the point.

Ranieri doesn't strike me as a man-motivator, he's clearly a journeyman who won't be bothered if we go down (provided he gets his compensation) and, because of past achievements (you know, the ones where he regularly failed to live up to the expectations but didn't do horrendously) he doesn't have much to prove.

Nigel had us going up, steadily and with the club's interests at heart. Ranieri only has the owner's interests at heart because he's ony going to be worried about his paycheck. Ultimately, that's why this appointment fills me with scepticism and apprehension.

 

[Barwellfox]

Have never spoken to the guy, so I hold my hands up that I havent got a scooby what passion he has for the job. Not a clue what his ambition is for LCFC, and no idea what players he will be looking to sell or bring in. So .................... I will leave it all to you guys who have had that personal chat with him.

 

[BuzzardFoxMick]

Ranieri is a crossover of Paulo Sousa and Sven

We play our best with fast paced football, get Schlupp, Mahrez and Albrighton down the wing, getting Vardy behind the defence

Ranieri will play the Sousa way while chasing Sven's players

Its a recipe for disaster

Fook me Proud , we ain't even played a friendly yet !
Just so I understand ur logic, why does CR remind you of a crossover of Soussa & Sven ?
Also Mr ( not so ) Proud Fox , I think some of the premature drivel you spout makes me think your a clone of Robbie Savage and Arry Rednapp !

 

[Lesta Gangsta]

Fook me Proud , we ain't even played a friendly yet !
Just so I understand ur logic, why does CR remind you of a crossover of Soussa & Sven ?

Sousa tactics, Sven signings.

 

[FosseFilberto]

So by your logic, Sven was a better appointment than Pearson? That's what our owners thought too. Only Sven moved us backwards, and Pearson returned and moved us forward. And maybe those clubs aren't scrambling for Pearson's number, but they weren;t scrambling to bring Ranieri back either. He's been out of work eight months and after the disaster with Greece, he probably thought he'd never get a job again... until desperate old Leicester came along. You also talked about the experience on his CV would get any job in the real world (or words to that effect) - really? At 63? Monaco sacked him amid talk of wanting a "new dynamic."

So what are the feelings in your waters FF? Seriously. I didmany people say they wanted him after he announced interest. Although I think some people would support any manager as long as Pearson left - until the results start coming in.

Thanks for taking the time and effort to explain 'my logic' to those less astute than yourself ... in fact you are a little short of the mark ... I was trying to convey that not only Sven, but also Noggin The Nog and Spineless Sy the Stickleback hero of Springwatch are all better football managers than Nigel Pearson ....

... although a more radical interpretation might just be that I was actually just pointing out that that money is relative to owners of football clubs ... since they acquired us their personal worth and the value of the brand have rocketed ... they can afford to back whoever they appoint and no doubt will.

Now you and Proud are the ones fond of quoting people's motives as if you have an inside track .... I'm willing to take Ranieri at his face value comments that he relishes another opportunity to manager in the Prem ... I suspect (note the lack of certainty) that he has made enough money from his career to retire comfortably without the need for the grief that this 'one last pay day' will bring him ... but what do I know ...

As I've commented elsewhere - I will give him a chance - I'll judge him after 10 games or so ... certainly not before we kick a ball in anger ... why? ... because his managerial record in top flight footie deserves that at least IMHO

 

[FosseFilberto]

I somehow doubt that they'll think the same way...I hope you don't think they're here for a mere hobby too

They're here to make money for King Power..

Trying to make money from football club investment might be seen as foolhardy ... and I personally don't view our owners as fools ... as businessmen they are very astute ...

I bet Parma would love Pearson in, but that's besides the point..

To sell ham or manage the football club?

Ranieri doesn't strike me as a man-motivator, he's clearly a journeyman who won't be bothered if we go down (provided he gets his compensation) and, because of past achievements (you know, the ones where he regularly failed to live up to the expectations but didn't do horrendously) he doesn't have much to prove....

Yes a regular journeyman with a handy Garmin European qualification sat-nav ]

Nigel had us going up, steadily and with the club's interests at heart. Ranieri only has the owner's interests at heart because he's ony going to be worried about his paycheck. Ultimately, that's why this appointment fills me with scepticism and apprehension.

Fair play to you AKCJ ... but you will admit that your thoughts on Ranieri's 'motivation' are pure conjecture?

 

[FosseFilberto]

Have never spoken to the guy, so I hold my hands up that I havent got a scooby what passion he has for the job. Not a clue what his ambition is for LCFC, and no idea what players he will be looking to sell or bring in. So .................... I will leave it all to you guys who have had that personal chat with him.

Amen brother ... they have me smiling ... they've written this guy off as some money grabbing journeyman who has had a streak of incredible luck throughout his managerial career .... and already, despite a ball not yet having been kicked he can't possibly hold a candle to Saint Nigel, the paragon of virtue who manages for purely philanthropic reasons and his undying love for the City of Leicester and its' football club ... I can feel myself filling up already ......

 

[AKCJ]

Trying to make money from football club investment might be seen as foolhardy ... and I personally don't view our owners as fools ... as businessmen they are very astute ...

They're not here for something to do at the weekend.

They're here to add 0s to their bank balances and to improve their brand image in Thailand.

I woudn't say that the ownership of a Premier League club is foolhardy but I would say that gambling the clubs position in the Premier League is.

Fair play to you AKCJ ... but you will admit that your thoughts on Ranieri's 'motivation' are pure conjecture?

Conjecture based on the entirety of his career...

Ranieri isn't here for pittance and he's shown he's not bothered about his reputation providing he gets paid for it.