#ClapForBloomfield

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Grifter said:
All seems a bit self-serving, these arbitrarily selected minutes of applause. We get to give ourselves a pat on the back afterwards and feel we've "done our bit" for the world, then immediately move on and completely forget the person. Of the millions of people suffering who might be singled out for this treatment- they're all inevitably relatable westerners who we find it easier to empathise with as well.
I wonder if the 100+ people blown up in Nigeria yesterday would take much comfort from these 1st world altruistic displays, ensconced in the lavish surroundings of billion pound football stadia.
I feel like the pervasive seeping of PC dictatorship into everyday life means you're immediately a horrible person if you choose not to get involved in these events too. There's a weird Kafkaesque rubber-stamp floating over all our heads, with "good" or "bad" ready to be meted out instantly.
The language used always has accusatory connotations for abstainers, "show respect"; as if not to applaud would be disrespectful.
Mustering up temporary 'empathy' then abandoning it after a minute, doesn't do the life justice. Yet to be any more emotionally involved than that, would mean being miserable all the time. There's 7.5 billion of us, someone will always be ill

...That said, if it happens, i'll still applaud

(tl;dr - sanctimonious ramble )
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It's ok Grifter, I understand what you're trying to say. Let it all out.
 
Grifter said:
All seems a bit self-serving, these arbitrarily selected minutes of applause. We get to give ourselves a pat on the back afterwards and feel we've "done our bit" for the world, then immediately move on and completely forget the person. Of the millions of people suffering who might be singled out for this treatment- they're all inevitably relatable westerners who we find it easier to empathise with as well.
I wonder if the 100+ people blown up in Nigeria yesterday would take much comfort from these 1st world altruistic displays, ensconced in the lavish surroundings of billion pound football stadia.
I feel like the pervasive seeping of PC dictatorship into everyday life means you're immediately a horrible person if you choose not to get involved in these events too. There's a weird Kafkaesque rubber-stamp floating over all our heads, with "good" or "bad" ready to be meted out instantly.
The language used always has accusatory connotations for abstainers, "show respect"; as if not to applaud would be disrespectful.
Mustering up temporary 'empathy' then abandoning it after a minute, doesn't do the life justice. Yet to be any more emotionally involved than that, would mean being miserable all the time. There's 7.5 billion of us, someone will always be ill

...That said, if it happens, i'll still applaud

(tl;dr - sanctimonious ramble )
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I saw this thread but ignored it the other day until the latest article on club site prompted me to dig it out. Quickly skimmed it but missed this post but obviously I completely agree.

Glad i'm not the only one
 
My comment on "show respect" simple meant...understand what they are doing...do not mess with their moment.

Up to you to clap or not to clap.
When I do these things...I also try and think of all those people I know in this sort of position....sort of telling myself..."I am healthy, I am happy, I have a great family and I am at Wembley supporting my team"....but others aren't.

sanctimonious twaddle too...sorry
 
Grifter said:
All seems a bit self-serving, these arbitrarily selected minutes of applause. We get to give ourselves a pat on the back afterwards and feel we've "done our bit" for the world, then immediately move on and completely forget the person. Of the millions of people suffering who might be singled out for this treatment- they're all inevitably relatable westerners who we find it easier to empathise with as well.
I wonder if the 100+ people blown up in Nigeria yesterday would take much comfort from these 1st world altruistic displays, ensconced in the lavish surroundings of billion pound football stadia.
I feel like the pervasive seeping of PC dictatorship into everyday life means you're immediately a horrible person if you choose not to get involved in these events too. There's a weird Kafkaesque rubber-stamp floating over all our heads, with "good" or "bad" ready to be meted out instantly.
The language used always has accusatory connotations for abstainers, "show respect"; as if not to applaud would be disrespectful.
Mustering up temporary 'empathy' then abandoning it after a minute, doesn't do the life justice. Yet to be any more emotionally involved than that, would mean being miserable all the time. There's 7.5 billion of us, someone will always be ill

...That said, if it happens, i'll still applaud

(tl;dr - sanctimonious ramble )
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As Peter D says. Missed Grifters rant originally but absolutely agree.

I'm probably missing the point of this 'clapping' stuff but it doesn't change anything 1 little bit.
Would rather every fan attending tmrw was asked to put £1 (or 31p) to a charity of his choice. Or to do 31 minutes of voluntary work for a good cause. At least then we might make some real difference.

Same goes for this 'My husbands, dog is in the army and has cancer. 1 million likes will get him through it' stuff you see on Facebook.
Sorry.....pushing a 'like' button does nothing....getting off your arse and doing something worthwhile will make a difference.

But obviously...out of respect I'll join in tmrw.
 
Staines R's said:
As Peter D says. Missed Grifters rant originally but absolutely agree.

I'm probably missing the point of this 'clapping' stuff but it doesn't change anything 1 little bit.
Would rather every fan attending tmrw was asked to put £1 (or 31p) to a charity of his choice. Or to do 31 minutes of voluntary work for a good cause. At least then we might make some real difference.

Same goes for this 'My husbands, dog is in the army and has cancer. 1 million likes will get him through it' stuff you see on Facebook.
Sorry.....pushing a 'like' button does nothing....getting off your arse and doing something worthwhile will make a difference.

But obviously...out of respect I'll join in tmrw.
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This amazing video sums it up brilliantly!!
http://youtu.be/eBuC_0-d-9Y
 
Barton and Faurlin went to see a terminally I'll R this week, they gave him a signed shirt and playoff tracksuit top.

That's how it should be handled. This is all a bit too lady Di for me.
 
Peter Damage said:
As sad as Mr Bloomfields circumstances are a nice reminder on our site that he’s not the only fan going through a tough situation at the moment.

http://www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/2...inally-ill-qpr-fan-alfie-preston-1571085.aspx

Should we not have a clap in the 66th minute?

A very close friend of mine in his 20’s who is an absolute Rangers nut has been diagnosied this week with an incurable life altering and debilitating illness.

So as sad as it is. I don’t see why Mtr Bloomfield is more important. My mates is 25 should everyone have a clap for him in the 25th minute??!! (I’m in no way proposing either of these,as the rest of my comments will indicate)

As a wider point I believe this type of thing has gone too far in football and that every club is a competition to prove they are the ‘best’ fans. A way of doing this by proving their class. And a perceived way of doing this seems to be, by how sympathetic they can be too vaguely football linked causes thus giving them an inflated sense of importance of their own club.

While each of these circumstances are individually tragic, the frequency of this devalues it all in my opinion.

Alan Davies the well known intelligent and respected comedian highlighted this same issue with Liverpool. They refused to move a game to an anniversary date of the Hillsborough disaster and he pointed out how far do you take this…

“Do they play on the date of the Heysel Stadium disaster? How many dates do they not play on? Do Man Utd play on the date of Munich? Do Rangers play on the date when all their fans died in that disaster, whatever year that was – 1971?"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...usal-to-play-on-Hillsborough-anniversary.html

Now I stress all these events are individually tragic but it irks me how it seems to be that some are deemed more important than others and the cynic in me links this to fans wanting to give their club an elevated sense of worth. So the mourning/respect is not as genuinely heartfelt as it should be thus devaluing the whole thing.

I think what our club has done is far more appropriate and classy. This enforced, peer pressure mourning and respect for this one individual above all others isn’t fair in my opinion. Sub-consciously I genuinely believe the Derby fans (not directly affected /friends or related to the unfortunate terminally ill fan) are more pleased at the fact that when the millions of people tuning in as neutrals tomorrow go, “why is everyone suddenly clapping” and they find out, they think oh aren’t ‘Derby fans great’.

Article from the Daily Mash highlights how the enforced and regular mourning has got out of hand in football and this supports my sentiments.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport...datory-for-all-premiership-kits-2012123154666

I’m not sure who decides this hierarchy of what tragedy is more important than the next one and I will be respecting the clap in the 31st minute but for me on a personal level there are far more relevant unfortunate situations that are pertinent to me and the latest article on the club website is a reminder that this type of thing unfortunately isn’t as uncommon as we would hope that it was.
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I'm sorry I don't understand this. It's not compulsory. If you want to make the gesture you can - if you don't you don't. Nobody is demanding or claiming anything. It is simply a gesture of goodwill and empathy from the wider football community of football fans not a ransom demand on your attention.
 
some on here seem to have no goodwill
if we were playing Nigeria we could clap for them
but we are playing derby and someone thought it would be nice if derby fans could show support for a 31 year old derby fan
its not compulsory
don't join in if you don't want to
 
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