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City bag Sagbo

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by DanKelly, Jul 21, 2013.

  1. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    Meanwhile, here in the real world, players in the Premier League generally call the shots.

    Worst case scenario, we've paid £1.6m for a player who we might have to release in anyone bids over £5m, it's hardly the worst deal in the world.
     
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  2. BigotAlertAnalRimMan

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    Also I doubt he will score 20 goals so let's not get too excited. 10 or more is a good return for that money.

    Let's not forget that Villa paid £7million for benteke and were close to selling him for £25m after an excellent season. that's x3.5 profit, we'd be making x3... not that bad.
     
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  3. GLP

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    I'm sorry, but players are signing for us and getting improved contracts, a chance to showcase their talent in one of the best leagues in the world. Sagbo has earned the move he craved by getting a chance in the PL, with us. I didn't see the other linked clubs putting a bid in? We are a relegation risk, which is why we are signing the players we are, so if we get relegated we have the strength to challenge again. It's the players that should be grateful, we have risked Premiership survival on signing them.

    If he scores 20 goals and we get relegated - he's still a £10m player, regardless of the league we're in but we'll have to sell for £5m.

    By offering these 'type' of deals, or allowing players to orchestrate these type of clauses, I'd say you're only more likely to attract mercenary footballers.
     
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  4. GLP

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    Except he's come from the French first division, playing for a team that finished near the bottom, he's openly admitted he's desperate for a chance in the PL.

    The fee is undisclosed, so I'd say it's likely to be the £3m quoted including add ons.

    A release clause is £5m, so why would they bid 'over' £5m?

    The real world that includes Jakupovic being history?
     
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  5. lewisc29

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    You're missing the point, Sagbo doesn't owe us anything. He has his interests at heart, not ours. Why would he hinder himself by not having clauses in his contract?

    On another note, does anyone else think Sagbo looks like a black Voldemort?
     
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  6. bum_chinned_crab

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    It's generally accepted they paid £11m.
     
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  7. lewisc29

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    I thought it was £8m, maybe we're all wrong?<whistle>
     
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  8. originallambrettaman

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    Nobody has ever bid £5m for a Hull City player, now you think now you think we shouldn't' sign a player just in case they do?

    Who do you think you are, Tickles? <laugh>
     
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  9. GLP

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    How's he hindering himself? He was desperate for a chance in the PL, we gave him that chance. I am sure most players do have clauses in their contract. I just find it absurd that they are in the public domain less than 24 hours after signing. These things never normally get out until a bid triggers talks etc.
     
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  10. lewisc29

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    There's a high chance we will be relegated this year, if we are, he has effectively taken a step back from the French Ligue 1. It is strange that it has come out so early, I can only think it was the agent.
     
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    Echo?

    How many of those seasons have we spent in the first division/Premier League where we have had a player genuinely or potentially worth £5m or more?

    Arguably Michael Turner was worth more than £5m, we were shafted and cash strapped.

    No, I said we shouldn't sign a player with restrictive contract clauses included. It's not too complicated to understand is it? He wanted a chance in the PL, we were prepared to give him that chance, therefore the terms should be in the clubs favour.
     
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    Yes, but he may well have also been relegated at his old club in France.
     
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  13. Murdoc

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    Terms should be in the favour of both the player and the Club because the negotiations are usually to find a compromise in money (wages, bonuses etc), and the addition of contingency plans in case the transfer doesn't work out (relegation/release clauses, pay-cuts etc). To say a Contract should benefit the Club because the player wanted the chance to play in this League is just laughably moronic.

    Of course he'd want to move to a more prestigious League with more televised games and a chance to really impress, who wouldn't? We needed someone who can score enough goals to keep us in the League. So it was inevitable really.
     
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    You're making a proper song and dance about nothing.

    Presumably, you think Newcastle shouldn't have signed Demba Ba?
     
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  15. GLP

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    Why? If he had 2 clubs from the PL interested, then the player was in a position of strength, as he only had one club, we were in the position of strength. We were offering him 'exactly' what he wanted. I hope you aren't involved in negotiations for anyone - it would be like taking candy from a baby. You'd be **** at it.
     
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    We are not in a position of strength, we have missed out on a few of our transfer targets!
     
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  17. GLP

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    For entirely different reasons.

    Hooper - Financial
    Cole - Location
    Austin - Injury

    We were in a position of strength.

    Having something that someone else wants, that's a position of strength.
     
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  18. Hull City AFC (HCHKR)

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    Didn't Wolves bid £5m for Hunt a few years back?
     
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  19. GLP

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    Forgot about that! They did, we declined, it was the eve of the game versus them at the KC and he injured himself and didn't play again that season. Maybe we should have accepted there and then!!
     
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  20. originallambrettaman

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    The bid was undisclosed.

    Come on GLP, should Newcastle have refused to sign Demba Ba because he demanded a release clause?

    And once you've answered that one, I've got a couple more. <laugh>
     
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