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To me that looks like it's him... but judging by the chap next to him, the picture was taken in the 70s, so we should all calm down
Is it a chap though? 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-23424012
I agree about the level of 'ambition' from Ashley, but it doesn't excuse the blatant lies being told by Cisse & his agents.
Submit a transfer request but don't try and hide behind your religious beliefs.
This seems to be taken from a picture from an parallel universe. On the extreme left is a goblin-faced creature with a long nose who is able to move its limbs at amazing speeds, with twice as long limbs and loves to gamble too
Personally l don't think it's him, but his agent has said he goes to the casino but doesn't gamble. Frankly l don't care what he does in his own time.
Unless Cisse wants a move, the whole Wonga thing should easily be manageable and a compromise found.
If Cisse was to leave the only positive aspect for me, is that it might pave the way for Demba Ba to return to the club, a long shot l accept, but has he a future at Chelsea under Jose ? I think Demba will be looking for a new club, it would not work pairing him with Cisse, that much has been evidenced, but back as a main man with a new partner ?
It's not impossible, but then l look at the team we have to make such transfers happen and then l realize we will be lucky to get Darren Bent at this rate. I have so little confident in those running the club at the moment, that l really don't want the new season to start, being honest l think we are going to get smashed, week in and week out.
Unless Cisse wants a move, the whole Wonga thing should easily be manageable and a compromise found.
If Cisse was to leave the only positive aspect for me, is that it might pave the way for Demba Ba to return to the club, a long shot l accept, but has he a future at Chelsea under Jose ? I think Demba will be looking for a new club, it would not work pairing him with Cisse, that much has been evidenced, but back as a main man with a new partner ?
It's not impossible, but then l look at the team we have to make such transfers happen and then l realize we will be lucky to get Darren Bent at this rate. I have so little confident in those running the club at the moment, that l really don't want the new season to start, being honest l think we are going to get smashed, week in and week out.
From the BBC Website:
Papiss Cisse and Newcastle have reached an agreement that will see the Senegal striker wear the club's Wonga logo on his shirt despite his religious beliefs.
"Cisse, a Muslim, had previously pulled out of Newcastle's pre-season tour after telling the club he was not prepared to promote the money lending company.
"However, after a week of talks, both sides are satisfied with the outcome and Cisse is now available to play for Newcastle once again.
"Cisse has been training on his own while his team-mates have been on tour in Portugal but now he is expected to immediately rejoin the first team squad. "
Papiss Cisse and Newcastle have reached an agreement that will see the Senegal striker wear the club's Wonga logo on his shirt despite his religious beliefs.
"Cisse, a Muslim, had previously pulled out of Newcastle's pre-season tour after telling the club he was not prepared to promote the money lending company.
"However, after a week of talks, both sides are satisfied with the outcome and Cisse is now available to play for Newcastle once again.
"Cisse has been training on his own while his team-mates have been on tour in Portugal but now he is expected to immediately rejoin the first team squad. "
i did think yesterday, when those very true comments were made by a respected muslim about Cisse belittling his own faith by picking and choosing what rules of the faith he adheres to, that it would eventually reach Cisse and he would back down.
Think he's a hypocrite and an arse to be honest but if he starts banging em in next season im sure, with all the fickleness of any fan, I'll be singing his praises again
Think he's a hypocrite and an arse to be honest but if he starts banging em in next season im sure, with all the fickleness of any fan, I'll be singing his praises again
Hughie gallacher was 8 types of bastard but that didn't stop him being a legend
Why do people think that gambling in a casino and opposing a pay-day loan company makes you a hypocrite?
many of the players no doubt are opposed to Wonga. So am I. That doesn't give them, or me, any right to refuse to fulfil a contract of employment if their or my employer strikes a deal with Wonga. I'm paid to do a job, not to have opinions.
religion is, however, different. if you take religious belief seriously (most of us find it impossible to imagine anyone could but some people genuinely do) then you really do have no choice but to follow God's word. If we were sponsored by a bacon wholesaler, the muslim players (or jewish players if there were any) simply could not be required to appear happily munching a bacon butty.
if reports are roughly accurate, cisse was saying that he was required by God (or at least His rules) to refuse to wear Wonga's shirt. Maintaining that stance while not letting His rules get in the way of a flutter on a night out would be hypocritical.
I think people think (quite rightly) he is a hypcrite because he is taking the moral high ground about Wonga, yet is quite happy to be plastered with Virgin Money, quite happy to be employed and pick up wages from the club despite it being run by people who have questionable morals and ethical fibre, is quite happy playing in the Barclays PL no less (is there anyone worse than the banks?) and had that on his shirt, had no problem playing in the Europa League which is sponsored by Western Union, and presumeably would have no problem playing in the CL which is sponsored by Gazprom.
You can't take the money from these guys on one hand but then pick and choose which morally/ethical corrupt company you are happy to promote, otherwise you are a bit of a hypocrite surely.
I think the other hypocrisy people see is that it is supposedly all religion based his objection, yet breaking a contract and gambling are also seen as morally corrupt practices in his religion so its not really stacking up. It simply appears that he has either been badly advised or is picking and choosing which bits of the muslim faith are cool with him.
Who cares, he is back at work as he should be. Modern day footballers eh.
No disrespect, but I do believe many of our supporters live in very black and white worlds (no pun intended). The English have many virtues, but one of their failings is seeing someone who has moral scruples as a 'hypocrite' because they do not conduct themselves as saints in every single thing they do. People should be respected for the principles they uphold, not for those they cannot hold 100%.
As for those who cannot see the difference between Wonga and Virgin or Barclays Bank, I do despair for you.
As for those who cannot see the difference between Wonga and Virgin or Barclays Bank, I do despair for you.
Thanks for your concern.If you cannot see that companies like Barclays bank are as morally corrupt as Wonga will ever be, then naive is not the word. Do a little research into the recent financial crisis and the role banks like Barclays played, before taking to your perch though.
Regardless in the eyes of his faith, the rate of interest is a non issue. Any interest at all is the issue I believe. Virgin and the banks charge interest, this should therefore have prompted a similar objection.
Whichever way you dress this up, Cisse has simply made a bad call and should just get his head and get back to work.
If you cannot see that companies like Barclays bank are as morally corrupt as Wonga will ever be, then naive is not the word. Do a little research into the recent financial crisis and the role banks like Barclays played, before taking to your perch though.
Regardless in the eyes of his faith, the rate of interest is a non issue. Any interest at all is the issue I believe. Virgin and the banks charge interest, this should therefore have prompted a similar objection.
Whichever way you dress this up, Cisse has simply made a bad call and should just get his head and get back to work.
As I say, I despair.
I deal with Barclays Bank on a daily basis and, as far as I'm concerned, their business is legalised robbery. However, comparing them to Wonga is a bit like comparing street muggers with the Mafia.
While I'm at it, why didn't we go the whole hog and get sponsored by the Mafia (motto: Beat Us if you Dare, logo: a horse's head). After all, they've cleaned up their act recently, and you moral relativists would have a field day with such outpourings as:
"Eee well Joe Bloggs and his pals have accepted being sponsored by Italian gangsters, why shouldn't Bill Bloggs?"
Keep em coming, this is hilarious. So while their execs are pulling 11m bonuses leeched off society and they prey on others assets in a financial crisis, the real evil is Wonga. Which is also completely legal. I know which of these legal companies have had the biggest negative effect on society as a whole. Yeah you comparison is bang on, but the street muggers are Wonga, the Mafia is Barclays. I don't mind any of them, if the law allows it then get on with it.
So by your reckoning the mugger should not be arrested because in the grand scheme of things the mugger could have done worse? The law, like religion is black and white, when you introduce gray it causes problems every time. Cisse is the Gray of Islam mate. The severity of his actions are irrelevant. Give your morals a shake with your head.
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