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Tamerlo said:
Not Mill House, he didn’t receive weight- he GAVE 5 lbs in ‘63 Hennessy Gold Cup. There are two others
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Oh ****, of course he did <doh> I knew Dormant received weight and that Stalbridge Colonist received 30 odd pounds. Can't remember the other one
 
Tamerlo said:
Hi Stick. Not intended to be a trick question. There are only two horses that did finish in front of Arkle, RECEIVING that weight.
Buona Notte is certainly one of them, when receiving 26 lbs and finishing just in front of Arkle when second to Flying Wild in the Massey Ferguson Gold Cup. So who is the other?
But for a mistake at the last (failing to rise properly), Buona Notte would have won. He then failed to rise again and it was undoubtedly a spinal problem which caused his utterly tragic death.
It was testament to Arkle’s greatness that, not being quite at his best after a hard ,recent race in the Hennessy, he ran Buona Notte so close giving him that weight.
People forget that apart from beating future Gold Cup winner, Fort Leney, in the first running of the RSA Chase (then Totalisator Chase), Buona Notte had slaughtered future runaway Champion Chase winner, Dunkirk, over 2 miles as a novice.
In my opinion, he would have been Arkle’s eventual successor, as he stayed all distances - and had a great turn of foot.
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The other one isnt Dormant then?
 
7. Pat was the filly who gave Norah Wilmott her first winner in her first week as a liscensed trainer.

Piggott one has me stumped, Apprentice jockey title?
 
stick said:
7. Pat was the filly who gave Norah Wilmott her first winner in her first week as a liscensed trainer.

Piggott one has me stumped, Apprentice jockey title?
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Mostly correct, Stick. Norah’s filly, Pat, ridden by Breasley, was the first winner by any licensed female trainer- and her first winner, of course.
Re. the Piggott question, relate it to the word in inverted commas- and then use a bit of Oddy’s nous!<laugh>
It’s a bit tricky, but I couldn’t make it too obvious.:emoticon-0136-giggl
 
Tamerlo said:
Mostly correct, Stick. Norah’s filly, Pat, ridden by Breasley, was the first winner by any licensed female trainer- and her first winner, of course.
Re. the Piggott question, relate it to the word in inverted commas- and then use a bit of Oddy’s nous!<laugh>
It’s a bit tricky, but I couldn’t make it too obvious.:emoticon-0136-giggl
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A race for lady riders?
 
Piggott's "handicap" was his weight, right? I think he could only get down to 8 stone 5lb, so would that stop him winning something?
 
Admiral Rous was instrumental in introducing handicapping into flat racing and there is the Rous Stakes at York - which Piggott never won. The race was first run in 1988 so I am not sure he ever even had a ride in it?
 
In Piggott's day the Lincoln Handicap meeting started the flat season and the November Handicap meeting ended it - would need to google whether he won either race (but I guess he did)

Edit: no, Piggott never won either race. Is that the answer? The Lincoln and November Handicap?
 
OddDog said:
In Piggott's day the Lincoln Handicap meeting started the flat season and the November Handicap meeting ended it - would need to google whether he won either race (but I guess he did)

Edit: no, Piggott never won either race. Is that the answer? The Lincoln and November Handicap?
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Yes, the Lincoln was always the first but the Manchester/Doncaster handicap was never classed as the last big handicap.
It was always the Cambridgeshire which constituted the second half of the Spring/Autumn Double.
Piggott never won either, so that is the answer.<ok>
 
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Tamerlo said:
Yes, the Lincoln was always the first but the Manchester/Doncaster handicap was never classed as the last big handicap.
It was always the Cambridgeshire which constituted the second half of the Spring/Autumn Double.
Piggott never won either, so that is the answer.<ok>
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I didn't know there was a spring / autumn double of Lincoln & Cambridgeshire. Spring double is the Lincoln and Grand National, right? Autumn double Cambridgeshire and Cesarewitch.
 
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