which is good, but our previous manager with those players mention was free falling to league 1 until LJ turned up... was it the players or the manager the problem? I think the overall foundations are much better now then when LJ arrived..
my thinking exactly … should there be a clear out then the only reflection is on the board.. as they brought in the wrong players …. should they keep the same players and sack the coaching staff and the result is we only finish 12th 11th 10th 9th 8th or worse then it is the boards fault .. they have basically supplied all the tools …. EVERYONE AGREE'S LJ was a breath of fresh air .. came in changed a lot of thinking … bettered the team … but seemingly ran out of time with no mitigating circumstances taken into account...…
For me JGF He was average at best, babbled on a lot and finally was caught out-to many 8-9-10 runs without points. You only get so long.
A LOT of media reports saying the deal with Chris Hughton is done, so hard to believe they are all wrong. Wonder what the delay in announcing it is?
I agree - but I wouldn’t say EVERYONE. There were some in this board who celebrated every time he lost a game.
My own thoughts are that the LJ project is over, I'm glad the guy has gone, he has had his chance and for me it didn't work, with all the money spent and the width of investments made on and off the field he failed, missed targets and won nothing, we can now move on with fresh thinking, who ever we employ can bring a different emphasis on our approach on the playing side and leave the profiteering amd monetary issues to the suits, settled teams, settled systems, less tinkering and most of all less waffle. I personally never wanted, never have and never, ever will want Bristol City FC to lose a match, I was one of the first on here to shout well done to him and the team when ever we managed a victory and like I have continuously said I wish him well and good luck in the future except when and if he ever is involved with a team that plays us.
I don't totally agree with you there mate....no trophies or medals or promotions..............but he did win us enough games to stay in the championship (or old 2nd division) longer than any manager since AD...
I'm sure you're right One4, I'm not trying to nit pick, I just gave a response to variuos posters with a different point of view to mine, I can't wait for the next head coach or manager to join us and we can all move on. It will be interesting, new alliances, new luvvies and new haters will be formed, a new day dawns, some of us have been there many times before.
I think it's a bit harsh to consider LJ a complete failure. We had some amazing moments under his time here, and we did play some fantastic football along with that, so even though a lot of it was dross, some of it did include successes. I know we like to wheel out the sheer amount of money he's had to spend, but that can be more of a reflection of how football has changed rather than how much he has been bankrolled. £10m today is absolutely nothing compared to what it was just 10 years ago. Considering we sold our best players year after year, and considering our net spend was probably nowhere near the top of the Championship during his time here, I think the spending argument against him isn't as strong as some might think. That said, we never made the play-offs under him, and a club of our ambition should have been making them. I'd consider it less of a failure, and think of it more as, it was simply the right time for him to leave. There's probably a good manager in there somewhere, but not for a club of our size and ambition just yet. Personally, I really want Hughton, but the more I think about it, the more I wonder if he does fit into the ethos that we want to have as a club. We have an abundance of talent that is arguably 'nearly there'. Will Taylor Moore, Liam Walsh, Joe Morrell, Antoine Semenyo and the like get a chance under him? If not, then you have to question if Hughton fits into our plans, because our club has been revolving around that characteristic for a few years now. We've done our buying, now is the time to play the talent we have, or sell it on as we have done before. Fact is, we buy young players of a certain age - whether the plan is to develop them and sell at a profit or develop them for the first team (as we've done both), if the new manager doesn't do either of these, then that's an enormous amount of expenditure lost. Ultimately, the club has been propped up to some extent by sales in the last 4 years of around £90m by my last check (maybe even more than that). I really want Hughton, but it could be an expensive mistake if he chooses a different pathway and doesn't make it.
From what I have read on him, is that he doesn’t promote from the academy and I believe in his 4 years at Brighton he played two youth players 20 minutes between them and one of them was a minute or two. He does have a knack at getting bargains but according to someone on OTIB who shared the finances in the year they went up their wages was around 45 million compared to our 20 million. So he gets bargains but pays them well and if failed then probably would of failed FFP. As per RR my step father a Cardiff City ST holder said we was getting Hughton so if he knows of this. It don’t take much for RR to say it everyday and one day he will be correct. Not my choice but not a bad choice.
No, I'm not his step father. As far as Hughton goes, he was in the frame for us when Warnock departed. Wasn't impressed at the time and haven't changed my mind since. Having said that, I thought Harris was a cheap option based on cost rather than ability, but you can't ignore results since. Hughton maybe right for you but he will cost more than Harris and you will only ever know after the event - the rest is guesswork.
Was with my step father yesterday in the Vale of Glamorgan hotel (he has one of those apartments there) and we saw a team bus. He was trying to work out who it was and tried naming the 4 clubs in the play offs. He named Fulham, Brentford and Swansea and was getting irate because he couldn’t remember the other team . Just of interest who did you want in place of Warnock?
Well it certainly wasn't you lot...... I thought Bowyer would have been a good shout and said so at the time. He was going through a hard time at Charlton with all the shenanigins going on there with the owners and was apparently up for it so we are led to believe. Dalman would have liked him because he brought Charlton up from League One and was all set to buy the club with him as his manager until Duchatelet upped the price and Dalman walked away. To be fair, Harris has turned out to be an unexpected force to many of us - long may it continue.
