That's not what was said. Joining the crew of people who are putting words into others mouths and imagining points others have made? A few people pointed out how well kaboul had played and that he had cut out several opportunities for us. No-one said we would have beaten spurs easily if there defenders hadn't been defending. /sigh
Thats always been his problem, a lot of what he says is true and makes sense, but he says it with such venom, that people like PISKIE, who have no counter to what he is saying, just focus on the fact that 87 is being a dick about it. PISKIE must love that to be honest, means he can just talk about toast or whatever and not face the subject at hand. And 87.......as much as you are correct......you shouldn't be gloating that your team lost man....by all means be upset, or at this stage even callously indifferent, as you expected it, but don't gloat ffs, this is your club.....
Not all good managers go out with the intention of just stifling the opponent. In certain games that's a tactic to use for sure, but hats not how all good managers set there teams up. Also we clearly had a game plan against Chelsea. We changed the formation, players and tactics for the Chelsea game and wenger said as much in his pre match press conference. By all means point out when wenger makes a tactical error but don't just lie and pretend he never has a game plan.
A87 makes the occasional good point and I'm glad he is here because he also makes the occasional thread and is fairly active. He also spouts a lot of rubbish, usually when he let's his emotions get the better of him. If anything happens that isn't us winning he goes into meltdown and his posts are full of swearing and cap locks as if the other members of this forum are his emotional punchbag. It's nothing to do with people not having a response to him, it's all to do with people getting wound up by his rudeness.
Well Mo is one of those good coaches that clearly does it, and it constantly works against us...Many other managers did it against us including SAF who also eventually worked Wenger out to the bone which is why Wenger's record against SAF went from even and at one stage ahead of him, to becoming pitiful and SAF running away with it. These days anyway it doesn't take much to work us out, simply play deep, let us have the ball in the middle of the park, and then watch us uselessly pass side-side and play tippy tappy near their box and eventually losing the ball. Also then hit us on the break and score the goal. Wenger does have a game plan, you're right: LET US PLAY ZE ARSENAL WAY AND BELIEVE IN OUR SKILLS! *Disney movie theme comes on*
It's hard to control yourself though when you're dealing with such delusional folk who constantly make excuses and talk rubbish, we could lose 10-0 and they'd be like "i thought there were some positives from today, and things we can take into the future that will move us in the right direction, and overall we have improved this year."
That isn't what happened yesterday, we didn't control posession in the middle of the park and get hit on the counter. They scored there goal from working the ball into our half and then running out our back line. Nothing to do with how we where set up or us committing to many men forward. One of he best things we did yesterday was not overcommit bodies at 0-0. It was only when we went behind that we had to become more expansive which allowed them to hit us on the counter with the second goal. By that point we had no choice and had to go looking for a goal. We set up differently yesterday so your point is nonsense.
You find it hard to control yourself as you clearly have some sort of emotional problems (or a drink problem). The people your trying to accuse of making excuses, have all clearly said they aren't happy with our current position and all say how disappointed we are when we lose etc... But the discussion on a forum doesn't have to start and end with: "we win - we are happy", or "we lose -we angry", it's perfectly ok to discuss the other things that are happening with our team or during the games other than just the end score line. That doesn't mean we are making excuses and blaming our loss on every single thing we mention that isn't just anger at us losing or drawing....
Durrrrrr, and that's part of Mo's game plan, score, sit deep with Arsenal, and know we won't be able to do anything about it. Another part of the game plan is to close us down and pressure us, which is what Chelski did yesterday, and that too usually stifles us. . Again, we are very easy to work out: -Play deep -Put pressure on our players and get physical -Throw in long balls -Hit on the counter The guide to effectively beating Arsenal or drawing them.
If we end up 4th this year you will be well chuffed and making so many points about "overall I think it was a good season with improvement, and lot's of positives to carry into the next" You're happy with 4th and forever in your delusional world of next year it's all gonna improve.
You realise we set up with the exact same tactics at you've listed for Chelsea right? We sat deep, didn't overcommit, got physical, tried to hit them on the counter and closed them down quickly in midfield. They just managed to get that first goal which meant advantage Chelsea.
Every single time I've commented on league positions I've made it very clear I'm not happy to just settle for fourth. Once again your putting words in my mouth. Your quite simply, an idiot.
They managed the first goal indeed with some brilliant skill, something we didn't even look remotely close to doing, so while Chelski can turn it up in just one moment, we can't, and that's the difference. . For most of the game afterwards when it was 1-0, the game was more of a training session than anything else, we didn't create **** or didn't look remotely threatening.
Here we go folks, the personal insults, see the rose tinted brigade ALWAYS start with the insults then play the innocent damsel.
If your going to constantly call me out and then make stuff up to try and prove your point then I'll treat you like the idiot you are. If you want to have a proper discussion by all means go ahead and you'll be treated with respect.
