I wouldn't say I'm a supporter, in that I make my decision to vote based on the individual election rather than blindly following a party (people voting for the same party over and over and for the parties there parents do etc is one of the main problems with politics in this country). But I have voted for them previously yes. What's your point?
Seems the thread title is backed up by hard statistical fact. The club should be closed down. http://metro.co.uk/2015/02/19/chels...ng-to-home-office-statistics-5069068/?ito=v-b
I think the point is that its yet another 'dodgy' person or person with affirmed racist points of view that Farage has been seen with. I'd also disagree with you, and say that UKIPs policies are very racist, and also very pro-corporations and supporting the rich/uber-rich/upper class, however you'd want to classify it. Which makes it strange that some working class supporters vote for them. But I suppose that the vote they have is a very small minority in comparison to parties like Conservatives, Labour, Lib Dems, Green Party and SNP.
The picture was taken outside a pub by the other guy, not farage, I fail to see how that proves anything. There's plenty of pictures of labour and conservative MPs with some less than favourable characters. What part of UKIP policy do you find very racist? Discussing immigration, or thinking a points based system similar to Australia would work better for our country isn't racist. Immigration is a good thing but there is more than one way to approach it and some people think flooding the market with uncontrolled immigration from the EU isn't the best way forward. I assume that's your angle rather than thinking people are racist for wanting to pull out of the EU. I don't for a minute deny that UKIP attracts plenty of nutters and racists, as the only party very openly discussing immigration it doesn't surprise me that they have leaned towards UKIP. That isn't the same as UKIP being racist or those who vote for them all being racists. I agree they are quite pro corporation. They gain votes from the working class because they are relatable, they will discuss any issue put forward and not dodge the questions like most politicians and people are generally disillusioned with the state of politics and appreciate this different approach. Also your last sentence is incorrect. UKIP have more MPs than the Green Party, got almost fives times as many votes at the last general election as the Green Party and won the last national election (European elections) ahead of all of those parties you have listed. They are very much a real player in politics (at least for this upcoming election), far more so than the Green Party. UKIP have an MEP in every single region of the UK, so there support is far more geographically spread than other fringe parties like the greens or snp. Hopefully a number of the smaller parties do well in May, we could do with more points in view in our government!
Anyone else ****ed off that it's sullied the Podolski song? I mean...he's highly unlikely to be part of our team again but it was still a good song! I used to find myself humming it at work and now people think I'm being a damn racist... 'kin Chelsea!
This is a football forum not a political one so let's not get embroiled in political debate I would like to give my.views about UKIP though.There are enough instances of their officials,members etc.using racist,homophobic language etc.They are also among the biggest hypocrites in politics.They are against the EU but they have enough MEP's lining their pockets with EU money.Farage mocks "the establishment" but I'd say you cant get much more "establishment" than being a public school educated ex city banker.
Plenty of idiots have been drawn to the party but they've worked hard to weed out the racists, anyone who makes comments like that get thrown out of the party. There are also plenty of comments from members of the labour and conservative parties that are homophobic or racist. If you judged each party on the stupid things members have said we'd have to get rid of all of them! As for MEPs there success in the European elections has highlighted there views against the EU, regardless of the money they get for being (or not being) there it has helped achieve there goals which otherwise would have likely been impossible, as during general elections people tend to drop back into normal voting habits and either vote for the Tories or labour. It's been a tool to gain popularity and further there ideas. Any other party would do the same thing in my opinion. How else do you try and break the duopoly we have in uk politics?
Everyone has a right to vote for whoever they want. The problem I have with ukip is their policies or lack of outside of the immigration issue. its easy to blame Jonny foreigner for the issues this country are facing but the bigger issue is corruption within the political system itself. Each party is bankrolled by certain companies including ukip and ultimately it's those companies with the biggest influence over party financial sponsorship that you are actually voting for. If you want radical change then do as the icelanders did and sack the government and install one for the common cause of the British. The problem is it takes national solidarity and pride to achieve that goal. If you don't know what I'm talking about then check out why you don't hear about Iceland in the news anymore.
The latest nugget of wisdom from one UKIP parliamentary candidate: 'What happens when all the renewable energy runs out ?' Kind of sums up the mentality of why you'd vote for a party that basically hasn't got a clue.
I love what Iceland did. Sacked the Govt, arrested the corrupt bankers and rewrote their constitution based on common social equity.They have a small population though and I think it would be much harder for a country like the UK, Germany or France to do something similar. That said, I am watching Greece with a lot of interest. I think the right wing idea of free market capitalism and 'trickle down' economics has been long exposed as a sham that benefits nobody except the rich.
The funny thing about right wingers, is when their interests get hammered thanks to free market capitalism, they start crying and start calling for some regulation of some sort to protect their financial interests. Their full of ****.
"Burn him" Funny thing about left-wingers is that they drone on endlessly about the sanctity of free speech and human rights..... except for those whose don't get their messianic message.
I'm not left wing, , just cause I think the right is often full of ****, which they are, doesn't make me to the left. And yes to a certain degree that is also true with many liberals....But at the same time, the right can hardly lay claim to being the beacons of free speech, speak out against what they hold sacred and they'll want to silence you as well, labelling you a traitor, and what have you.
True, but the left do seem to hold all the PC aces. They have a plethora of pejorative labels to prevent discussion of anything they might find inconvenient.. Similarly, because I see the hypocrisy of the left doesn't necessarily make me right-wing. I just can't stand bulls****ers of any political stance.
