Charlton 11's

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E17addick

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I've done this on various boards I go on.

I try to pick Charlton plus another team 11's.

You can do this exercise with around 2/3 of the teams in the league.I try to pick only players who played for both first teams but will be flexible around Goalies.David Button's 12 minutes for Spurs at Doncaster has completed the Charlton/Spurs team although I still need to put a Goalie on the bench who played in neither first team.

These are the strongest six in my opinion.Please feel free to debate :

West Ham

Sasa Illic,Billy Bonds (Capt),Chris Powell,Scott Parker,Simon Webster,Christian Dailly,Robert Lee,Paolo Di Canio,Derek Hales,Lee Bowyer,Paul Konchesky.Subs Noel Dwyer (60's Goalkeper),Mark Bowen,Scott Minto,Alan Curbishley,Matt Holmes,Leroy Rosenoir,Carlton Cole.

Palace

Thomas Myrhe,John Humphrey,Chris Powell(Capt),Alan Pardew,Gonzalo Sorondo,Herman Hrediarsson,Darren Ambrose,Mike Flanagan,Mark Bright,Paul Mortimer,JohnSalako Subs:Tony Burns,Rhoys Wiggins,Paddy Mccarthy,Darren Pitcher,Neil Redfearn,Paul Williams,Matt Svenson.

Spurs

David Button,Luke Young,Paul Konchesky,Scott Parker,Paul Miller(Capt),Chris Perry,Danny Murphy,Garth Crooks,Darren Bent,Johnnie Jackson,Andy Reid.Subs Peter Guthrie (Goalie Lennie got in on loan in the 80's),Don Mcalister,Terry Naylor,Mark Gower,Dorian Dervite,Paul Walsh,Jonathan Obika.

Chelsea

John Phillips,Marvin Hinton,Scott Minto,Alexis Smerton,Paul Elliott,Colin Pates(Capt),Gavin Peacock,Graham Moore,Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink,Scott Parker,Graham Stuart.Subs:John Dunn,Anthony Barness,Joe McLaughlin,John Bumstead,Keith Jones,Gordon Bolland,Carlton Cole.

Brighton

Ben Roberts,John Humphrey,Garry Borrowdale,Alan Curbishley(Capt),Steve Gatting,Colin Pates,John Robinson,Garry Nelson,Chris Iwelumo,Radistan Kisichiev,Peter O'Sullivan Subs:Tony Burns,Paul Sturgess,Les Berry,Therry Racon,Abdul Razzak,Mike Small,Paul Kitson

Millwall

Nicky Johns,Harry Cripps(Capt),Phil Warman,Terry Brisley,Darren Ward,Alan McLeary,Eamon Dunphy,Kevin Lisbie,Mark Bright,Phil Walker,Johnny Summers Subs:Ben Roberts,Phil Warman,Tony Hazell,Therry Racon,Tony Towner,Danny Haynes,Gordaon Bolland.
 
Do you have a real life?

I don't remember Peter Guthrie, or Phil Warman playing for Millwall, but apart from that they all bring back memories.

How about an XI who only ever played League football for Charlton?
 
I don't remember Phil Warman at Millwall, but he was here when I first started going to the Valley so he may have been at Millwall before. The Millwall line up has a few interesting names. I liked Terry Brisley, and I can remember the covered end chanting 'Cripps Cripps Cripps' when we were awarded a penalty back in the seventies (he stepped up and scored it, but god knows who the opposition were!)
 
Phil Warman went straight from us to Millwall and played one season there.

I remember Terry Brisley's first game for us - there was a solitary Millwall fan in the covered end, somewhat the worse for wear, chanting Brisley's name throughout the first half and begging him to come back to Millwall. Brisley came out for the second half, went into the covered end and tried to console the bloke, lovely gesture. <ok>
 
playing a 3-2-4 formation and having had a man sent off and no subs I can do Sheffield Wednesday
Sheffield Wednesday - Jimmy Seed manager having played for them and managed us ;)

Nicky Weaver,
Miguel Llera, Madjid Bougherra, Peter Shirtliff,
Jose Semedo, Robbie Mustoe,
Akpo Sodje, Paulo Di Canio, Luke Varney, Francis Jeffers,
 
I can do a more balanced Wednesday side admittedly Morrison and Madden in the full back positions is not ideal and the bench is very attacking.

Scott Carson,Michael Morrison,Lawrie Madden,Jose Semedo,Peter Shirtliff,Madgid Bougherra,Lloyd Sam,Paolo Di Canio,Mark Bright,Chris Bart-Williams,Steve Mackenzie.Subs:Bob Bolder,Miguel Llera,Robbie Mustoe,Luke Varney,Paul Williams,Leroy Lita,Francis Jeffers.

They could play an imaginary Charlton themed Steel derby against Sheffield United

Nicky Johns,Simon Francis,Carl Tiler,Matt Spring,Jon Fortune,Simon Webster,Keith Gillespie,Clive Mendonca,Rob Hulse,Andy Reid,Kyle Reid Subs Carl Ikeme,Chris WilderSteve Thompson,Alan McLeary,Tony Towner,Andy Gray,Marcus Bent
 
For Eddiefirmani here is an attempt at Southend.

Simon Royce,Gary Poole,Chris Powell,Keith Jones,Leon Cort,Christian Dailly,Mark Gower,Garry Nelson,Eddie Firmani,Nicky Bailey,Ricky Otto.Subs:Derek Bellotti,Simon Francis,Dorian Dervite,Terry Brisley,Alan Mccormack,Paul Williams,Leon Clarke.
 
eddiefirmani said:
How about an XI who only ever played League football for Charlton?
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None of you Leslie Welchs taking up this challenge? To stop it being a list of one-hit wonders who made a few appearances for us but failed to make the grade in League football, I shall impose the proviso that they must have played for us in at least two different seasons.

Easier to do for the old days when there was more loyalty in football. Actually most of that "loyalty" derived from the fact that there was a maximum wage of 12 pounds a week (times have changed a little?) so it wasn't worth players moving house in many cases.

And I suppose you need a memory like Leslie Welch to remember who Leslie Welch was.
 
eddiefirmani said:
None of you Leslie Welchs taking up this challenge? To stop it being a list of one-hit wonders who made a few appearances for us but failed to make the grade in League football, I shall impose the proviso that they must have played for us in at least two different seasons.

Easier to do for the old days when there was more loyalty in football. Actually most of that "loyalty" derived from the fact that there was a maximum wage of 12 pounds a week (times have changed a little?) so it wasn't worth players moving house in many cases.

And I suppose you need a memory like Leslie Welch to remember who Leslie Welch was.
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I'll kick this off with the central defensive king pin of Richard Rufus.

Also - i'll have Solly at Right Back.

And Harriott at Left Wing.

Before my time but can Bartram and Peacock also be included in this?
 
CAFCAlex said:
I'll kick this off with the central defensive king pin of Richard Rufus.

Also - I'll have Solly at Right Back.

And Harriott at Left Wing.

Before my time but can Bartram and Peacock also be included in this?
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You are a good sport, Alex. I thought I was being sent to Coventry and I would hate to follow in the footsteps of Leon Clarke and Dowie.

Yes, Bartram and Peacock count. I have a vague memory of Peacock trying his luck in the US, but whether that was as a player or coach I cannot remember. Anyway, I think we can discreetly draw a veil over this rare mis-step in his otherwise honorable career.

Another of our truly greats, John Hewie, only ever played first-class League football for Charlton. I think we can count the South African leagues as "non-league" though I can see this could get debatable. The Danish League we should count as "First Class" but what about (for example) the Icelandic?
 
E17addick said:
Peter Reeves would also count to partner the Ruf at the back.
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I thought of him but could not remember if he ended up with another League side.

I would guess comfortably in our top ten appearance list, but I am stuck on this damned tropical island without my trusty Cameron. Reeves was never a favourite of mine but I was probably too young to appreciate his better qualities.

Interesting you say "at the back". This was before the concept of double centre-backs had totally taken over. Reeves was a defensive half-back similar to Hughes or Holland not as defensive as his contemporary Bobby Moore. When he joined in with an attack we never expected too much. He held the record as Charlton's youngest League scorer (at 17) until he lost it to Shelvey. The curious thing is he only scored one more goal in nine years and nearly 300 matches.
 
eddiefirmani said:
I thought of him but could not remember if he ended up with another League side.

Reeves was never a favourite of mine but I was probably too young to appreciate his better qualities.
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Unfortunately eddie, he had to retire from the game after a shocking tackle that cinder-tracked him behind the goal at the Jimmy Seed end. God, he was down for a long time.

Certainly one of my favourites - solid, dependable, unflashy and with a lovely timing in the tackle. We definitely missed him when he went.
 
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