Jackie. Mick who? Plus You are a craa fan on a SAFC board. Tell me what you expect - a cup of tea and a battenburg? Go on. Neg rep me. Ouch. x
I'm an 80's child so can't answer this. I have heard storie's of people going to Roker park one week then St. James' the next. Can anyone enlighten me? My guess is thing's changed with the Hooligan element in the 70's and 80's?
Yeah someone brought that up a while back in a similar discussion. And the hooligan element certainly won't have helped, no. But then back then, the people involved with that sort of thing hated anyone who supported a diffferent club. I do fear this element is slowly but surely coming back though. And while I don't agree that violence in the media is the cause of all evil in society, I think there are too many impressionable young lads out there who have been drawn to football violence by films that do nothing but glamourise it.
If I'm honest I don't think the internet help's either. Sitting behind their laptop, it's easy to forget there is a real person on the other side. Everyone is a keyboard warrior now, I just recently set my XBOX account to private. People dishing out Death threat's and telling me they hope my mother dies of Cancer, please you just lost a game of FIFA, is there any need?
Personally, couldn't give a ****. It's their problem, let them sort it out, only bothered about the derby day results, and finishing above them. As for their internal affairs (cue comments) bothered? not. We're in safe hands. 9 threads at the top of our board about them........hhmmmm.
Gillingham was THE turning point for me at least, from viewing NUFC as our "local rivals", to utter ****S. Individually there are many NUFC fans I know who are decent lads - but that ONE instance sticks in my mind. If the boot was on the other foot back then, I would have had a laugh at the mags going down but WOULD NEVER have turned up at Sid James to support the other side - passive rivalry - rather than active and antagonistic taunting/gloating etc. I now welcome all misfortune that befalls NUFC.
My dad and my grandad both went to Roker and St James. They weren't the only ones. They were both red and white but its just what you did because ordinary blokes from the yards couldn't travel to away games at the other end of the country every other week but liked to watch football. I started going to matches in the late 70s as a kid with my dad and he told me it was just too dangerous to go and watch Newcastle as well. I remember I was 10 years old in 1980 and went to the derby at roker. I went with some friends as my dad was at work. At the wheatsheaf waiting for the bus home a full grown man with a Newcastle scarf punched me full in the face. I'm sure some NUFC fans can claim some similar thing has happened to them as bell ends are universal, but that was it for me. Until that day it was local rivalry but from then on, I can't ****ing stand the mags. Something changed in the 70s and it became vicious.
My old man took me to SJP 40-odd years ago, as it was quite common for NE fans to watch both clubs occasionally. Seemed to change with the ride of hooliganism in the 70s and there's been real hate ever since.
This Too I was at a derby game in the 70's as a fifteen year old and about 5ft 2in. I was walking past the main stnad with my equally small mate. In the other direction was a group of about 6 grown men (no colours - the f*cking chicken sh7ts) one of them put his fist in my face and kicked me 3 or 4 times when I was on the ground. They all ran off laughung - the actions of a typical mag!!!! Needless to say I hate the f*cking scum and I hope they go into administration and end up like Sheff Wed. Lol Bart PS 1-9 still a record Safc - last team to win the FA Cup Safc - Last team to win the League Safc - top team in the last 3 years Safc- Most League wins Need I say more - now why don't all the scum who infest this board do us all a favour and f*ck right off!!!! Bart
I would say that things changed in the late 1960's when Newcastle fans came to Roker Park early and deliberately positioned themselves in the Fullwell End knowing this would antagonise the locals. This was arguably the first case of organised hooliganism in English football, and needless to say it worked, with fights breaking out all throught the first half of that game until eventually the last of the Mags were kicked out.