That's ok then? Football's the only sport where this behaviour is still considered remotely acceptable but that doesn't make it right. To be brutally honest football's just backwards for this modern age. The lack of technology, justice, fair play, the obscene money involved, the scandals, player attitudes, diving, how out of touch it is from reality... and of course the idiot fans it draws. I've no idea how football is as popular as it is when you look at it objectively but it draws the bottom feeders out in full force. The fact that football's been like this for years has no relevance on what's right or wrong TODAY because we're living in the present. It wasn't even RIGHT back then! Why anybody would feel the need to shout **** like that in the first place is beyond me. Who has that amount of depravity inside them? You'd have to be a ****ing psycho in a bottom feeder's body and someone who doesn't have the slightest bit of self control over themselves. If someone can't see that chanting such disrespecful, hateful things in that fashion is completely unacceptable then they ought to come over to mine and open the contents of their heads all over my back garden. The plants need fertilising.
And what exactly does that post bring to the argument that hasn't already been covered? Regardless of how long it's been going on for doesn't make it right now and certainly doesn't mean it was right then. See post #123
Football's far from the only sport where the fans abuse each other with chants. Have you heard some of the cricket chants and sledges from the crowd?
Rugby league fans are the epitomy of good behaviour, hardly any away team coaches have been bricked after games in Hull this year.
Your rhetorical question had previously been asked by a previous poster, hence my repetition of a previous answer. There's an awful lot of moaning and moralistic posturing going on on this thread, which may make the author(s) feel good about themselves but has **** all to do with what gets sung/ what doesn't get sung/what should get sung/what shouldn't get sung at football matches. 'We all hate Leeds' is a very popular song at the KC. Hard for some of you logical and sensitive types to comprehend, but if a few Leeds fans get wound up, so much the better. No doubt some of the people objecting to the content of some of these refrains will be the same people lamenting the 'lack of atmosphere' and morgue-like ethos at our ground.
I have and from my experience they're nowhere near as bad. Even if they are, that doesn't make it ok in football or cricket and it doesn't justify Gary Speed chants from Tigers fans the other night.
I think that I get it now. Sometimes people ridicule the fat and the old. Therefore, racism is okay. Football crowds used to be good. Now they are not. Therefore, we need more hurtful songs.
So you say they do, do it at the cricket. Did you hear them? Wasn't it three or four people audible to nobody but those next to them for a short time during one game? A bit heavy handed and prejudiced to label everyone else because of their actions.
The argument seems to be the converse. People are abused and discriminated against for all sorts of reasons. There are laws to protect people from it. To single out skin colour for special protection and to apply additional resources to it is discriminatory and border line racist. I do wonder how many minorities are on this thread being offended. The Asians i know get a bet embarrassed and irritated by people being offended on their behalf.
This entire thread is about what gets sung at matches. Nobody's on here posturing to make themselves look/feel better for the sake of it. Can you not see the difference then between "We all hate Leeds" and "Gary Speed's a *****"??? I'm not saying that you can't wind other fans up. I don't see the point in doing it personally as it kind of defeats the object of being a 'supporter'. There's an obvious difference between what the OP mentioned and "We all hate Leeds". The latter isn't based on a tragic event or racism. Also, you've not answered my question by repeating yourself... yes I know chanting like that has been happening for years... my response to that is that it's not right regardless. Not morally, not ethically and not if you have a shred of dignity in your body. When you can tell my why it is, then you've answered my question.
The **** are you talking about now? My only point is that chants like that aren't right regardless of what year it is or in what ground. How can't people grasp that? Are you telling me that it is ok?
And what about the Asians you don't know? By your logic, if some idiot is chanting racist filth at a football game and I tell him to shut up because it's offensive, that makes me borderline racist in telling him to stop...
I'm talking about you being hypocritical for saying it doesn't then it does occur in other sports and I'm saying you're grossly over-reacting to one persons news that three or four people mumbled something that most people have already criticised. You seem to now want to reopen the criticised comment to tar us and the whole football world with. You're doing precisely what you claim is outrageous when others do it as you are making offensive remarks about a group of people by using sweeping generalisations based on limited knowledge.
