CHAMPIONSHIP REBUILD THREAD

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barry from Watford can pass a ball, the Swansea "old" way illustrates that, stats kill the game. We could make a side that can pass to each other for half a game and it means bugga all
 
trundles left foot said:
What a piss take, wouldn't be surprised if Levy tried this. A player they don't rate or want for a rising British star. Wouldn't surprise me if HJ fell for this.

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/07/0...er-kevin-wimmer-in-exchange-for-alfie-mawson/

Lets hope he sees the sense in this.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...alfie-mawson-tottenham-hotspur-links-13277619
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I'd have been really worried if Guidolin was still manager. Clement won't allow big nose to dictate transfers to him so unless Clement has found a better defender, he'll be staying.
 
London_Jack said:
Really chuffed with Tammy signing :)
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I am keeping quiet on this one. I think it is going to be a great signing, but am not 100% on that. Think we have to give him time as said earlier I hope he isn't going to be our no. 1 striker, but can see him doing well when we have an injury or to many games for llorente to play.
 
Nosugarman1 said:
La Palma say Mesa deal 100% agreed. So I'm assuming that if he passes his medical tomorrow will be our player tomorrow evening.
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Again with this one, I really don't know if this is good or not, people seem to think it is a fantastic signing and I suppose AM chasing would indicate he is a good player. But will just have to wait and see how it goes, don't know enough.
 
trundles left foot said:
Again with this one, I really don't know if this is good or not, people seem to think it is a fantastic signing and I suppose AM chasing would indicate he is a good player. But will just have to wait and see how it goes, don't know enough.
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As we already know, signing players is a bit of a lottery. Some are successful, some not.
Fingers crossed that Mesa lives up to his billing.
 
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Roof, you were doing so well then and you had to bloody spoil it with VDH, cant pass, has the turning circle of the QE2, poor positionally, slow, he wasn't to bad in the air if I remember. I can see why Ajax let him go. just hope we do the same.

Big profit on Mawson, but I think he is going to be a future England Captain, with another good season and a cap under his belt I wonder if that 20m may be more like 40 if we can keep him for another season. Then I would sell.
 
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For me, signing Abraham is a strange decision. He may be good, then again, he may not be. That's the problem, we don't know because he has no experience in the prem and is untested at this level.

Are we signing him to be our second striker after Llorente?
I think this would be a huge gamble if he is because no matter how much potential comes with, the reality of the matter is, he has no experience at this level. His reputation comes from the experience he had with Bristol City and his pedigree comes from his being a Chelsea prospect. Imo, that's not enough to consider him as our #2 striker. Certainly not enough for us to expect him to carry the team if, or when, Llorente gets injured.

Chelsea seem to be hedging their bets though by giving him a long term contract, just in case he comes good with us.

The best scenario for me is that he' our #3 striker which means, if Baston is on his way out, who will be our #2? Are we still in the market for a third striker? I'd be happy if this was the case. Could be PC has had a change of heart re Baston and he's staying? we shall see.

What ever Abrahams role, I hope ours isn't as baby sitter and PC will use him as a Swansea asset not a Chelsea prospect.
 
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Well why would he keep Baston after last years failure. Baston showed nothing for me to want to keep him here. I did see Abrahams in the u21, playing in the lone striker role in the Euros and was very good at it. Which is what we are expecting him to do for us. It is a risk but as Lib says so is every signing and our 15.5m risk last season failed miserably. I cant sit here and say I have seen loads of him, but what I have seen has impressed me enough to think he will surprise a few on here. Only time will tell though and we still have Ayew who can do a job up there if needed.
 
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Stumpy said:
For me, signing Abraham is a strange decision. He may be good, then again, he may not be. That's the problem, we don't know because he has no experience in the prem and is untested at this level.

Are we signing him to be our second striker after Llorente?
I think this would be a huge gamble if he is because no matter how much potential comes with, the reality of the matter is, he has no experience at this level. His reputation comes from the experience he had with Bristol City and his pedigree comes from his being a Chelsea prospect. Imo, that's not enough to consider him as our #2 striker. Certainly not enough for us to expect him to carry the team if, or when, Llorente gets injured.

Chelsea seem to be hedging their bets though by giving him a long term contract, just in case he comes good with us.

The best scenario for me is that he' our #3 striker which means, if Baston is on his way out, who will be our #2? Are we still in the market for a third striker? I'd be happy if this was the case. Could be PC has had a change of heart re Baston and he's staying? we shall see.

What ever Abrahams role, I hope ours isn't as baby sitter and PC will use him as a Swansea asset not a Chelsea prospect.
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Baston is heading back to Spain.
 
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Chelsea would never tie down Tammy to a long contract if they thought he was not good enough. Many high profile sides loan out players they have on long contracts because they are young and they have other good players on their books that they want to use. It is good for Chelsea,Good for us and great for the player who will get first team experience in premiership football. Everyone is a winner.......However I dont think he would come here if it was not that Clem was the manager and he knows the player.....Clem is the most knowledgeable manager we have had on players for a very long time and you feel you can trust his judgement and i hope Jenkins backs him to the hilt.....
 
Stumpy said:
For me, signing Abraham is a strange decision. He may be good, then again, he may not be. That's the problem, we don't know because he has no experience in the prem and is untested at this level.

Are we signing him to be our second striker after Llorente?
I think this would be a huge gamble if he is because no matter how much potential comes with, the reality of the matter is, he has no experience at this level. His reputation comes from the experience he had with Bristol City and his pedigree comes from his being a Chelsea prospect. Imo, that's not enough to consider him as our #2 striker. Certainly not enough for us to expect him to carry the team if, or when, Llorente gets injured.

Chelsea seem to be hedging their bets though by giving him a long term contract, just in case he comes good with us.

The best scenario for me is that he' our #3 striker which means, if Baston is on his way out, who will be our #2? Are we still in the market for a third striker? I'd be happy if this was the case. Could be PC has had a change of heart re Baston and he's staying? we shall see.

What ever Abrahams role, I hope ours isn't as baby sitter and PC will use him as a Swansea asset not a Chelsea prospect.
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You may well be correct Stumpy but, when we came up we signed Danny Graham who had done relatively well in the Championship the previous season - Danny did ok for us that first season.
 
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trundles left foot said:
Roof, you were doing so well then and you had to bloody spoil it with VDH, cant pass, has the turning circle of the QE2, poor positionally, slow, he wasn't to bad in the air if I remember. I can see why Ajax let him go. just hope we do the same.

Big profit on Mawson, but I think he is going to be a future England Captain, with another good season and a cap under his belt I wonder if that 20m may be more like 40 if we can keep him for another season. Then I would sell.
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40 million for Mawson ... I almost parked my groceries all over the computer . This kinda reminds me of the call for 25 million for Montero after the first season . As for VDH , he's had little to no chance to show himself , even so , still managed a MOTM in one of his few starts . Hope we keep him for backup . Also on the CB front , a lot of people wanted Fernandez to ride the bench last season and got rid of .... good thing we didn't eh .
 
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