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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by GLP, May 13, 2022.

  1. originallambrettaman

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    A Forest fan has set up a page to raise money for a charity of Billy Sharp's choosing as a show of condemnation of last night's assault. Billy has chosen Martin House Children's Hospice in Wetherby. It has raised £5395 and rising.
     
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  2. Amin Yapusi

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    He deserves to be banned for good just for being a billy bullshitter.

    He’s claiming he rushed over specially to step over the fan, and didn’t intend the stamp <doh>

    Regardless of the circumstances you can’t be doing **** like that in his position and not even holding his hands up, **** him.

    Nowt worse than a liar. Proper scummer.
     
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    Not Championship play-off but good luck to Sephen Quinn in tonight's game for Mansfield. Looks like a visit to Wembley for Quinny.

    He was great for us.
     
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  4. dennisboothstash

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    Bloody rubbish Mansfield…


    Yeah. Always liked Quinny. Very good for us, so good luck to him.
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    Oli McBurnie's in more bother now, the police are also investigating.
     
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  6. GlassHalfHull

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    Robert Biggs, 30 from Derbyshire is in court today on an ABH charge for his running headbutt of Billy Sharp. He's lucky it's not GBH, but it seems a certain conviction.
     
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  7. DMD

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    Given he wasn't in the squad, I wonder if the rules about encroaching on to the playing area apply to him too?
     
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  8. The B&S Fanclub

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    Apologies if this has already been discussed. What's the difference between Abh and Gbh? Anyone know in simple layman's terms?
     
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  9. DMD

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    It's based on if it's intentional or not.
     
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    Tar.....
    surely in this case its Gbh, has he intended to clothesline Sharp and inflict an injury.
     
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  11. DMD

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    I'd need to check, but I think the main reason is that it alters the degree of proof they'd need to get a conviction.
     
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    https://askanydifference.com/difference-between-abh-and-gbh-with-table/#:~:text=In ABH, the harm may,Offenses Against A Person Act.


    ABH is the type of crime that includes giving an injury to a person that is not severe. A weapon may not be used. Also, the person doesn’t intentionally harm the other person. And sometimes, only a force is used that might end up causing injuries. This usually doesn’t require a lot of police intervention, and the matter is seen as trivial; the maximum punishment given is imprisonment for over five years.

    GBH is a much more severe type of harm. Here generally, a person is harmed intentionally, and a weapon can be involved. It affects the person who is attacked as they have to face a medical condition. However, this doesn’t cause death in them. Also, the punishment is much more extreme, ranging from life imprisonment to a very high amount of fines. The United Kingdom has different rules regarding how they should be treated.
     
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    Long time since I read it but DMD is right. It means for GBH that you need to prove he intended to cause serious injury. GBH like murder, rape, arson can generate life in prison, so there has to be an associated level of proof for such a serious sentence to be considered.
     
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    I assume his initial appearance will be in a Magistrates court. in which case the maximum sentence that court can hand out is 6 months. (I think).
    As the charge is Abh, then I believe that magistrates can only hear assault charges, ie no injury was caused . Abh, suggests there was. I would not be surprised if it is referred to a higher court.

    Should I now spend the rest of the morning perusing The Football Supporters Act? To find the exact, specific clause that states "thou shalt not inflict a running, flying headbutt on opposition players". To save time, I am sure not even the loonies that drafted the act would have dreamed that one up.
     
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    When Heckingbottom initiated that first half touch line dust-up with Spence it was McBurnie who was off the bench instantly (with his moon boot on) shoving anyone he could lay hands on. He’s a ****ing nutter.

    Goes to show that football’s troubles aren’t solely down to cocaine use, which seems to be today’s fashionable hot take.
     
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    Whilst the running headbutt could’ve caused serious injury, like brain damage or even death, the mens rea for s18 GBH would require the defendant to intend to cause serious injury. He could still be charged with s20 unlawful wounding or inflicting GBH, depending on Sharp’s injuries, which has a maximum penalty of 5 years in prison.
     
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    A man has been jailed for 24 weeks after pleading guilty at Nottingham magistrates court to assaulting the Sheffield United captain, Billy Sharp, at Tuesday’s playoff semi-final at Nottingham Forest’s City Ground.

    Robert Biggs, 30, from Ilkeston, Derbyshire, admitted assault occasioning actual bodily harm. He was told that a charge of illegally entering the playing surface had been dropped.

    The Nottingham Forest season ticket-holder appeared in court from custody and did not oppose an application for a football banning order during the hearing.
     
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  19. originallambrettaman

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    Biggs also given a 10-year football banning order. He's unable to attend a live football match until 2032, as well as other restrictions on his movement.
     
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  20. GlassHalfHull

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    10 years is the maximum ban from all football apparently. Forest said already it would be a lifetime ban there. Can other clubs similarly apply a lifetime ban against him?
     
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