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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Ciaran, Jul 17, 2013.

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  1. Mind The Duck

    Mind The Duck Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone complained about Sammy simulating killing protestants with his bow and arrows yet?
     
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    Null Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    If anything happens it will be a fine ... under £30K!
     
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  3. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    Rangers and Celtic fans grasssing on each other is the saddest thing ever. Embarrassing beyond belief <doh>
     
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  4. Patience

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    <laugh> I'm enjoying your new position on here as The Voice Of Reason.
     
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  5. Mick

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    UEFA won't do anything. They are hardly going to punish either club for supporters singing Irish Republican songs in a state where Irish Republicans are in Government.
     
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  6. Medro

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    Do you think people were genuinely offended for being told to "go home"?
     
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  7. Medro

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    What IRA ballads were they singing?
     
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  8. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    You just don't get why singing for a race or ethnicity to go home isn't cool these days?
     
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  9. Mick

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    The only ones I heard were Roll of Honour and Boys of the Old Brigade.
     
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  10. Medro

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    You do realise it was not to be taken literally. It was a wind up. The famine wasn't just about catholic people ya know.

    The original was "Why don't you come home" sang by the Belfast lad who coined it, but because most of the supporters were Scottish it was changed to "why don't you go home"
     
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  11. Mind The Duck

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    Medro caught out being racist again

    "honest guv, it was a wind up"
     
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  12. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    Well I knew it was supposed to be a wind up, but you can wind people up in other ways which don't include the famine and telling people to go home. If you have to explain the joke to people because they've took it the wrong way then it is a **** joke.
     
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    To be entirely fair Mick, in the same vein as saying it isn't cool to sing for an entire race or ethnicity to go home (and i fully agree with that) many people would say it isnl't really cool to sing about an organisation responsible for killing civillians.

    There is a philospohical debate to be had about a) whether it was terrorism etc and b) whether the RA being sung about is the same as the one that was around in the 70s 80s and 90s (i know many will be chomping at the bit to do just that) but most people listening to it won't necessarily pick up on the subtlety and I suspect some that sing it these days don't either.

    Trev's spot on thoough - it's just tit for tat for the sake of it and I can see why many on both sides would see it as a tad embarrassing.
     
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  14. Null

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    <ok>
     
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  15. Mind The Duck

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    We now have a special police unit set up to arrest, detain,fail to convict and give holiday makers a lift back to Glasgow, just for singing Irishy.

    If it was b*witched I'd understand
     
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  16. Mick

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    I don't really care for the IRA, but I don't really care for the British Army - the British Army also killed innocent civilians in Ireland (quite a few civilians were killed by the British Army within the local area of the stadium last night http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/issues/victims/ardoyne/ardoyne02a.htm). Yet even though I don't care for the militarism I have to lump the likes of Poppy Day appeals at football games and Help for Heroes appeals.

    So basically one form of murder is legitimate as it is sanctioned by the majority, in the form of the state, and you are free to sing songs and publicly support this militarism, and even run charity appeals in support of it - but Irish Republican murders were illegitimate because they were carried out by a minority, and you are a sectarian bigot if you sing songs in support of this militarism.

    So, in summary, it's the double standards that irritate me.
     
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  17. The Raging Oxter

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    But what has any of this got to do with football?

    Celtic fans singing songs about the IRA. Rangers inviting soldiers to their ground.

    It's time to let this **** go.
     
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  18. DevAdvocate

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    I'm with you.
     
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  19. Medro

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    I don't think anyone needed the joke explained to them, it was simply people going out of their way to be offended. Your lot could have came back with a witty response but due to the nature of the Old Firm it got outlawed.
     
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    For the record I don't think people singing that kind of stuff are necessarily sectarian bigots but their songs are going to cause offence - in exactly the same way as people singing about the army would offend people whose lives were made something of a misery by their very presence and I don't really agree with that either so i do get the double standards bit.

    Call me naive but i would personally prefer if none of it was sung in football grounds.
     
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