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Casual Fan Has Been Banned

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Dilligaf, Sep 22, 2012.

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  1. VETCHETARIAN

    VETCHETARIAN Active Member

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    There's a certain poster on the Cardiff Forum who has espoused violence on more occasions than I care to remember,yet he has not been banned globally.
    I refer,of course.to the crackhead from Aberdare.
    Inciting violence is surely a far greater crime than anything Casualfan may have done.
    If complete bans are to be imposed there needs to be some fairness and justice involved in the decision making.
     
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  2. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    Banning one of our own because someone don't like him and his personal views is a no no ....If the toon want to ban him then that their choice but for us to permanently ban him is well out of order and a touch of spitefulness as there are some who agree sometimes with what he says, I don't like dictatorship in any shape or form and freedom of speech must be upheld. If an appropriate post is found then it should be deleted and the person informed why it is deleted but to permanently ban him is way over the top.....these are my views and my views only....
     
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  3. It'sChicoTime

    It'sChicoTime Well-Known Member

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    The supermod decided a ban from the site was in order, not dilli, which part is so hard to understand. If you have an issue with his ban, take it up with the supermod.
     
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  4. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    should not have gone to the super-mod in the first place....
     
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  5. It'sChicoTime

    It'sChicoTime Well-Known Member

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    But it did because of what he stuck on the toon board.
     
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  6. Dilligaf

    Dilligaf New Member

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    Dai, what happens on the Cardiff board is up to them. The difference between you and Casual is that he was someone you couldn't reason with. When you and I disagree on something at least we can have a chat and find some common ground. In my opinion that's the difference between a good poster and a bad one.

    I won't mention any names but I just like say thanks for the messages of support I've had via pm's, some from fans of other teams too.
     
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  7. Breezy

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    I got an idea Dilligaf .. Why don't the mods and their personal message brigade have their own thing through the " PM " outlet & let the rest of the board get on with football instead making everyone jump through hoops to be allowed to be part ...
     
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  8. Dilligaf

    Dilligaf New Member

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    Breezy, no one pm'd me to ask for anyone to be banned. Just messages of support that's all. One poster said that he couldn't believe people on here defending Casual and didn't want to be caught in the crossfire. After reading some of the comments on here I can fully understand why.

    I finds myself disagreeing with an awful lot of what's been said on here but I'll respect everyone's opinion.
     
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  9. Breezy

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    Just put Dai being "Banned " in a " PM' stumpy , along with anyone else on your wish list as " unworthy " & I'm sure it will get taken care of
     
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  10. Kifflom!

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    Dilli: "I just asked for a ban and left it to him to decide what type"

    So you were instrumental in this daft witch-hunt. I can't lie - I am truly disappointed in you and it looks like I'm not alone. Banning someone should always be a last resort and you've had the knives out for him for ages, now using your new-found status to at least influence the decision. Fact is, he's done absolutely nothing on our board to warrant a ban. What evidence is there he's been "following you around"? Sounds garbage. As others have said, the Toon mods are capable of dealing with their own problems but it looks as if you were quick to add your two penneth worth - and I'm sorry but that smacks of vindictiveness.

    As for "that was then and this is now", well I'm sorry that doesn't cut it. This has opened Pandora's box as far as I'm concerned. Apart from the homophobic comments from Norway I've never asked for a Swans poster to be banned but I will do so next time - and there will be a next time because the 'certain posters' you refer to can't let it go. Dragon has already been abusive on another thread today: "Same old posters talking crap". Isn't this "antagonistic"? You gonna ban him too?

    You see my point - setting a precedent is dangerous because it appears as if you have two sets of rules here - one that apples to regular posters who've been here a while and those who post less regularly but just get up your nose.

    Shameful.
     
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  11. HonkyJack

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    my take on this is that casual posted something offensive on the newcastle board and has been banned as a result. i didn't see what he posted or the reaction of the newcastle fans. However i'd like to think all of us jacks and geordies are fairly broad-minded and tolerant so i'm assuming it must have been beyond the pale. if it wasn;t then clearly he shouldn;t have been banned.
    my personal opinion of Casual prevents me from giving him much sympathy. From the outset i was convinced he was an interloper, i could forgive him he's constant multiple threading, however his obvious glee revelling in and re-inforcing supporters anxiety during the weeks before and after BR's departure was unnecessary and clouded my view of him. if he was a cardiff fan, which i believe he was, then his posting was far more subversive than hughs.
    ultimately it would be good to get some opinion from the supermod on why he was banned, i wouldn't want cas to be martyred in the name of freedom of speech. at the end of the day being a pain in the arse should never be ban-able being an offensive one is
     
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  12. Kifflom!

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    "Interloper"; "subversive" <doh> ffs, it's a football forum not MI6. I don't care if the guy was living in Splott he spoke more sense at times than many on here even if his style was a little odd at times.

    The video showed ladyboys in mini skirts. Call the evangelicals!!! The corruption of the Georgies' morals is afoot and should not be tolerated!! <doh>

    If the criteria for banning includes being a pain in the ass then Dai would not have been allowed to join this forum. If the criteria includes being "antagonistic" then here's a guy who's complete condescension and utter contempt towards other posters is legendary. Nobody - but nobody - gets up posters' noses more than Dai. I'm not suggesting he be banned, far from it, but you see the argument.
     
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  13. swanseaandproud

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    Dill i hope you can see this poster as evil and should be banned also. the very least i hope you have a word in his shell and delete his abusive thread to me and an apology wont go amiss either....or will it be the case of double standards....I wait with interest your response as i think you do a good job abet a little naive sometimes....
     
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  14. Dilligaf

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    Dai, I had already done it. This is another example of people not reading posts properly. Just above it I actually describe the big difference between you and Casual.

    Banning is a last resort but again I think there's been selective reading going on. No one seems to grasp that it's not an isolated incident that's caused this. He picked arguements for weeks on end and was getting worse. How long do you allow it to continue ?
     
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  15. Breezy

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    " Dai , what happens on the Cardiff board is up to them " ... shouldn't that go for the Newcastle board also ?. Did they ask for a ban ? If they didn't then leave them out of it ... Now from there I guess were really left with our board , although the biggest onus was always on the " Newcastle " angle since the beginning . P.S. It's a lot to do with a lot of things , not just with you Dill ... you seem a great guy ... Cheers !!
     
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  16. Kifflom!

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    "No one seems to grasp that it's not an isolated incident that's caused this. He picked arguements for weeks on end and was getting worse."

    Haven't seen any evidence that supports any of this at all. Where did he "pick arguments" (and so what if he was)? Take a look at Dragon's posts! how was he "getting worse"?

    Dilli you asked for views and it looks as if the majority think you've got this very very wrong. :(
     
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  17. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    I think this was meant for dill not me breezy...<laugh>
     
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  18. Billybjack

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    Don't really care either way. But a lot of you I suspect wanted dilli to be a mod. He has decisions to make so lay off. Ultimately the highest authority made the decision to ban him and id be surprised if any of you actually think that it was all on dillis say so. He would have looked at evidence presented before him. So why dont a few of you wind your necks in we know now there is a standard to adhere to as a precedent has been set. if your really not happy about the decision lobby it with the super user. He may shed more light on it.
     
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  19. VETCHETARIAN

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    The more I think about it,and after re-reading the comments, the banning was absurd,and should be remedied forthwith.
    Come on mods,go back to supermod, put it right,and correct this injustice.
     
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  20. Kifflom!

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    Billy: I think you'll find that Dilli invited comments with this thread and he can't complain when he doesn't like the response. In fairness, he isn't. So wind your neck in. <ok>

    I've been the biggest supporter of the mods being allowed to get on with their job - it's a tough one. But we now find that someone that Dilli has had a long running and vitriolic argument with has been banned, partly on his say-so.

    It's just plain wrong.
     
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