I don't know about "really rating him", I am not sure any of us can do that on what we saw of him in what was a poor team. Yes he did show a bit of talent that had been honed by our coaches, but I beleive the jury's out. He was certainly not the raw talent that appeared with Shelvey or (maybe time is giving me a differnet perspective) the talent that was Parker in his first few matches. So for me whilst I wont diss the lad for ability, my strong perspective on him is the "sod you lot I don't care for what you've invested in me" attitude that came out around the time he was offered a contract. Yes we may have got £1m for him but, unlike Parker, Shelvey and the like of Robert Lee, he owes us, not the other way around.