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Cargiant: "we will never agree to a stadium on any part of our land under any circumstances"

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by thisismyengland, Mar 10, 2016.

  1. TWGWTDT

    TWGWTDT Well-Known Member

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    Who in their right mind would buy a car from car giant anyway those things are massive and can't even fit on our roads. What's more Giants aren't so common anymore as most of them are fighting those ice people north of the wall ...
     
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  2. factamondo

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    Winter is coming ?
     
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    sku Well-Known Member

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    Rob Brennan on Twitter

    My understanding is Cargiant have offered to sell #QPR land elsewhere in w London but it would just be for a stadium. #QPR want houses etc
     
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    TootingExcess Well-Known Member

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    Think that's the nail on the head sku. Plenty of British Rail land at old oak they could put a stadium but the money is in the peripheral developments
     
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  5. Supergod00

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    I expect in large part that would be to cover the costs of building the stadium though, from what I understand we've already bought up quite a bit of land up there, just none big enough to fit a stadium on though so we are already building houses anyway!
     
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  6. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    We'll see if any of this land shows up in the next set of accounts, and QPR is in fact a property development company with a football team, or whether some other entity actually owns it.
     
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    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    I don't want my football club building houses - the local council should be doing that if the government would only let them. Give us a stadium fit for human habitation. Soon. Anyfuckingwhere.
     
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  8. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    It would be interesting to see how long the 'Old Oak Project' has actually been in the pipeline. These things don't materialise overnight, there must have been a considerable consultation exercise before the first plans were drawn up and released. If this goes back before 2011 it may explain why TF and his partners actually bought us and why ridiculous money has already been lost when any sane owner would have either sold or gone bust. May also explain why the Mittals are still on board.

    Whatever happens I still expect us to be at Loftus Road for the foreseeable future...
     
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  9. TWGWTDT

    TWGWTDT Well-Known Member

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    There is no money
    My partner is a big wig in council housing in London . No money at all...
    None and if there was they couldn't comets with greedy developers
    I have just designed a website for the housing association off the clock and none of them have any basic IT skills
    It's alarming and these ****wits get paid 140K plus all of them to run a service that has no money to build a shed in London ... They spend most of the budget on fighting corrupt landlords
    Look at The ES any night and count how many tossers are in the property market ! Cnuts

    They are driving real London people out of boroughs they have been in for generations

    It's social engineering on the biggest scale and it's been happening for years and what's more English people do not care at all ... It's not reservable as the future rests of the U.K. rests on this disgraceful trend which is spiking out into surrounding areas . It's not sustainable on any level and that's why if we leave the EU it's all goes up . Yes the UK may have the best rich haven in the world but the rest of bulldog Britain will have nothing

    It's on a knife edge IMO

    And our club hoping to become a landlord is why? .... Money

    They have ****ed us over the football and dragged our clubs image to a all time low ... Best us fans wake up to that yet we are now only focussed on beating Brentford .... I am betting not many care about houses in Brentford compared to 3 points
     
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  10. Rangers Til I Die

    Rangers Til I Die Well-Known Member

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    Agree. I've often wondered why they were still here. Old Oak makes some sense in that.context.
     
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  13. ELLERS

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    That just come up on Facebook. I find it strange. As i said yesterday QPR need to make a statement re stadium.
     
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  14. Tramore Ranger

    Tramore Ranger Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Can't see it happening possibly ever........Just redevelop LR in to and 25000 capacity stadium, if you can't go upwards, lower the pitch and build accordingly....must be some imaginative stadium designers that can come up with that sort of plan.......
     
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    We have to modernise the place, it's an uncomfortable embarrassment, despite the memories.
     
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    In the meantime, all West Londoners should NOT buy any cars from Cargiant. Hit them where it hurts.
     
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    I think only people of limited means buy cars from car giant!
     
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  18. ELLERS

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    Agree QPR need either a new stadium or redevelop LR. Sorry i love HQ but it's so small and outdated in many areas.
    Seriously, if i owned the club nd had the money like our wealthy owners i would try and buy all the houses in ER and the school and redevelop.
    However
    I think the board are more interested in making money at OOC.
     
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  19. Rollercoaster Ranger

    Rollercoaster Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Our football club won't be building any houses Stroller, but QPR's owners might. That said QPR won't be building a new stadium, but their owners might.



    However, the argument for a new stadium is compelling. Currently our biggest revenue stream is our parachute payments. These decrease every season until they fade away. When that has happened ticket revenue is the biggest revenue stream. After ticketing costs, credit card charges, football league levies etc. have been factored in each ticket sold yields the club an average of £13. Over 10% of the seats in the stadium had a restricted view, our hospitality boxes are about 2.5% of the stadium capacity, the average for new stadia is around 10%. Last season our non-football revenue was £15k, Arsenal clear millions. Up until that meeting we had had over 5.500 new attendees at Loftus Road, fewer than 6% came back for a second visit, generally citing the facilities as their major reason for not returning. I could go on....

    As the facts were presented at that meeting, standing still was not an option. Remain as we are we will go backwards and Old Oak is still the only option under consideration for moving forwards.
     
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  20. TWGWTDT

    TWGWTDT Well-Known Member

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    Bonjour Simon
    Agree but having met Lee Hoos and gang in one of those boxes I am not sure they have the albility to deliver
     
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