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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by DJBlackandamberarmy(No4), Mar 11, 2012.

  1. westhulltiger

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    Particularly in home games, if we are to make a push for the playoffs, I think we need to try for a bit more creativity so i would play Cairney with McKenna and have Evans & Dudgeon on the bench. Evans hasn't done anything wrong, i just think Cairney would create more
     
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  2. StrovolosTiger

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    Evans job is not to create; it's to sit in front of the back four and hold and Cairney would be pants at that job. Evans would be excellent at being an attacking midfielder. He doesn't do that because that is NOT his role and he is just doing his assigned job very, very well.

    This is what the situation is:

    Nick Barmby likes the 4-2-3-1 formation. It allows you to be secure at the back as well as threatening up front. The draw-back, as far as we are concerned, is that it requires an accomplished lone striker to be optimum and we haven't got one.

    If you want Cairney to play he would have to either replace Koren in the centre of the 3 attacking midfielders, or you would have to alter the formation to 442 (which we have done in a few games in the last quarter) as one of the central 2 midfielders.

    One thing you cannot do is play Cairney in the holding role because, like Oilyvagina, he's a complete powder-puff when it comes to breaking things up when the oppo have the ball.
     
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  3. westhulltiger

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    I know Evans' role is to protect the back four and I agree, he does it very well. All I'm saying is that in order to make the play-offs we need to start winning games and with Evans & McKenna in there, we do not create enough. In terms of passing quality, Cairney is far superior in my opinion
     
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  4. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    Does not look Like Brady will make Cardiff due to his injury and with Stewart off form i would start Oli and play 4-3-3 with Evans bombing on as he does. Other than that i agree with your team John. With 2 away games this week maybe time now to give King his chance as less pressure away from home.
     
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  5. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    Looks like no Brady. Agree with you on Stewart. IMO, King for Mclean and Oli for Stewart. Cardiff got very lucky @ Brizzle and have been poor of late. This is just the right sort of game after Ipswich. I shall be there with the few die hards. Taff land on a tuesday night, jeeez. It could be worse though.
     
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  6. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    Its a hard life. Only 3 days in Hong Kong and rushing back for Coventry game.? You shall also miss the game at Pompey...Lol.....I would have flown out after Pompey and missed the Coventry game which would have given you 10 days in Hong Kong and back into Heathrow am saturday 7th april in time for Millwall at the New Den. just a thought like..!!!!
     
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  7. westhulltiger

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    Look at Thomas Cook go!
     
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  8. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    :emoticon-0116-evilg
    what,, go Bust ? ;)
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

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    That would have been fine, if it wasn't for the fact that all my meetings needed to be completed before the end of March.
     
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  10. StrovolosTiger

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    Is there a 380 service to Konkers yet?
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

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    Not that I'm aware, there's A380's flying out of HK to Sydney, Dubai and Beijing, but I don't think there's anyone flying direct to the UK.
     
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  12. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    Shame that then. :emoticon-0116-evilg Maybe you need to have a word with your fixture planner ? ;) just a thought like. :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  13. StrovolosTiger

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    You do realise those things have jacuzzis on board? How cool would that be?

    Wonder how they avoid the water slapping around and spilling during turbulence??
     
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    Not much use to me, I get pissed before I get on, to make sure I sleep all the way there.
     
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    Journey out to HK is a bit of a drag but I always take the late night flight back with BA - sets off about 11.45 pm local and then gets back to Heathrow around breakfast time. It's a long time in the air but even I manage to accumulate a decent amount of kip so arrive back in Blighty full of beans for the day ahead. I'd hang on another day and get back to London early on Saturday morning and then straight home and off to the match.
     
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    I normally always take that flight, but as everyone else also wants to take it, it's now three times the price of flying through the day on the Friday.
     
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  17. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    Thought that airlines banned anyone from boarding if they are pissed up ? just asking like.
     
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  18. originallambrettaman

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    Traditionally I fly business and you can be as pissed as you like if you pay extra.

    Alas, this time I'm flying cattle class, so I might have to watch myself.
     
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  19. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

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    A few years ago I took this flight back the same weekend as the HK sevens. I got to the business lounge around 6pm and BA shared the lounge with Qantas. The lounge was full of Aussies going home and I have never seen so much beer consumed in a short space of time. The staff had to re-stock the fridges 4 times during the evening.
     
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  20. PLT

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    So you're saying we could play Cairney in a midfield two, but not in a 4-2-3-1? They're almost the same thing. The only difference in system is that instead of 2 strikers, you have one dropped off in Koren. The midfield is the same. If having one defense minded midfielder is okay in a 4-4-2 I don't see why it isn't in a 4-2-3-1.

    Anyway this is all academic, we played away at the best team in the league with Cairney in McKenna's position and we still took the lead and only narrowly lost with 10 men.

    In Evans you have a tackler, that allows you to put who you want next to him. Being **** scared of playing with any less than 2 defensive midfielders is the kind of attitude that NP would have been ridiculed for.
     
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