Is there anyone that he HASN'T talked too yet................FACT!!!!.........
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29803267
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29803267
Can't be many left now
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Best bit of business we've never done
I wonder who's fault that would have been if we had........
(sorry about that whiffle
)
Its becoming a bit like the old Radio one Roadshow (for those old enough to remember).
Still cant believe we almost paid £8 million for him !!!
Never mind Milky managed to spend the money on Cornelius instead, sure he got the same result
Still cant believe we almost paid £8 million for him !!!
Never mind Milky managed to spend the money on Cornelius instead, sure he got the same result
Interesting that he was 'too good for us', now he's trawling about trying to get a loan move to one of our championship rivals........
Maybe he's still holding out for that Liverpool bid......
Maybe he's still holding out for that Liverpool bid......
Its becoming a bit like the old Radio one Roadshow (for those old enough to remember).
Still cant believe we almost paid £8 million for him !!!
Never mind Milky managed to spend the money on Cornelius instead, sure he got the same result
At least Ince got a chance & blew it....Corny didn't get the opportunity.
Surely even with your heaviest MM rosie tint specs on you can see that MM would have loved to prove himself right about Corny!
Tan was slating him for buying a dud and if Corny had been anywhere near good enough MM would have chucked him in and rammed the words back down Tan's throat.
He belongs in the same pub leagues as Eikrem, Berget and probably Burgstaller. For £8m we probably should have bought his entire club (maybe league) not just one player
Tan was slating him for buying a dud and if Corny had been anywhere near good enough MM would have chucked him in and rammed the words back down Tan's throat.
He belongs in the same pub leagues as Eikrem, Berget and probably Burgstaller. For £8m we probably should have bought his entire club (maybe league
) not just one player
Corny is history now, but as always the whole episode divides opinion as to where to lay the blame for it all - can't fault it........
Looks like the actual cost of it all for an untried youngster in a pub league was the real issue, not just the guy himself. That £8M headline figure was actually the loss made on him assuming we could get back £3M from Copenhagen, not what we really paid out to get him.
"Cardiff have already spent approximately £11m on Cornelius.
His initial transfer fee was £7.668m, with further costs including agents' fees of £863,000, a signing-on fee of £1.25m and his wages, which amount to roughly £1.35m across his seven months at the club. That means the loss would be approximately £8m if he leaves for £3m."
Incidentally, read somewhere that Newcastle have been looking at him and were considering a bid of around £1M.
Looks like the actual cost of it all for an untried youngster in a pub league was the real issue, not just the guy himself. That £8M headline figure was actually the loss made on him assuming we could get back £3M from Copenhagen, not what we really paid out to get him.
"Cardiff have already spent approximately £11m on Cornelius.
His initial transfer fee was £7.668m, with further costs including agents' fees of £863,000, a signing-on fee of £1.25m and his wages, which amount to roughly £1.35m across his seven months at the club. That means the loss would be approximately £8m if he leaves for £3m."
Incidentally, read somewhere that Newcastle have been looking at him and were considering a bid of around £1M.
Perhaps Ince should consider retiring from football and utilising his obvious talent of talking and go into telesales?
Spoilt kid feeding off his overrated dads name.
Spoilt kid feeding off his overrated dads name.
True, but the guy was injured for the majority of the time...also with him being such a big lump recovery time/match fitness was always going to take a while. One game he came on for last twenty minutes or so (sorry memory can't recall against who?), but he took about three defenders with him just outside the area & Gunner (I think) was left in space to score.
Again, can't argue.....but that was as much to do with the amount we sold him for as much as how much we bought him for. In a way this proves my point (not sure what my point is)....but anyway, Tan's whole justification for the vilification of MM was centred around the signing of Corneleous. If Corneleous was given a chance after Malky left, and proved a success, then Tan would have shown himself to be the Dimwit he obviously is, and Malky's purchasing policy would have looked a whole lot rosier. Remember, we were desperately short of this sort of striker at the time (hence the Odemwingie/KWJ debacle).
Agree Sparky.......but again, I make no apologies for the continuation of this argument, after all lovely cuddly unracist, unsexist (proven) Malky (best CCFC manager ever, official) was unceremoniously shat on by you know who, and a small minority of supporters (though strangely large majority on this forum) despite achieving more than any manager in our history.....oh and its' not as if things are THAT exciting on the field anyway.
MM got us to the premier league but greatest manager ever? Luck played no small part in our rise to premier league status. MM got lucky.
He overspent by £15 million, it wasn't just the Cornelius deal that saw him on his way. It was also the crap football and his bleating to the press. I am not a fan of Tan but he backed down with regard to the sacking by email saga. That should have been the end of the sorry tale but no, MM goes to the press yet again. MM the greatest chancer, in my opinion, is a more appropriate title.
As for ****ting on him, well if saying his football was **** up to and including promotion to the premier league then I am guilty. He bought heavily to try and keep us in the premier league and was failing when he got sacked. Please don't bleat on about him not putting us in the bottom 3, he would have taken us straight back down, in my opinion, so orchestrated his own dismissal by going to the press after Tan backed down. I won't mention the Southampton game... oops I did. Rant over
He overspent by £15 million, it wasn't just the Cornelius deal that saw him on his way. It was also the crap football and his bleating to the press. I am not a fan of Tan but he backed down with regard to the sacking by email saga. That should have been the end of the sorry tale but no, MM goes to the press yet again. MM the greatest chancer, in my opinion, is a more appropriate title.
As for ****ting on him, well if saying his football was **** up to and including promotion to the premier league then I am guilty. He bought heavily to try and keep us in the premier league and was failing when he got sacked. Please don't bleat on about him not putting us in the bottom 3, he would have taken us straight back down, in my opinion, so orchestrated his own dismissal by going to the press after Tan backed down. I won't mention the Southampton game... oops I did. Rant over
I tried getting this article back on track but here we go again.
In my mind we now have the most vindictive, destructive, divisive, deluded owner the club has ever know. He has no respect for the fan base and simply goads them at every opportunity and left us more divided than I can ever remember. Like it or not Malky reigned throughout the most successful period of football for fifty years which makes him one of the greatest managers the club has ever had. Another rant over.
In my mind we now have the most vindictive, destructive, divisive, deluded owner the club has ever know. He has no respect for the fan base and simply goads them at every opportunity and left us more divided than I can ever remember. Like it or not Malky reigned throughout the most successful period of football for fifty years which makes him one of the greatest managers the club has ever had. Another rant over.
Agree with you about getting back on track there Bob, and not sure where Cornelius came from on this thread, but there you go.
It was supposed to be about the Tom Ince roadshow. Does anyone think he was worth the £8M that Malky and Moody (yes, Malky and Moody!) agreed to pay for him? Thank God he turned us down - another bullet dodged unlike the Corny one that got us straight between the eyes (or at least in the wallet).
One final word whilst we're on the subject of Corny though, if he was going to "come good" as has been suggested, I haven't noticed a queue of other clubs clutching £8M in their hands trying to buy him since he left.
The "one for the future" throwaway line from Malky said it all at the time - he was crap and never worth the money we offered for him.
It was supposed to be about the Tom Ince roadshow. Does anyone think he was worth the £8M that Malky and Moody (yes, Malky and Moody!) agreed to pay for him? Thank God he turned us down - another bullet dodged unlike the Corny one that got us straight between the eyes (or at least in the wallet
).One final word whilst we're on the subject of Corny though, if he was going to "come good" as has been suggested, I haven't noticed a queue of other clubs clutching £8M in their hands trying to buy him since he left.
The "one for the future" throwaway line from Malky said it all at the time - he was crap and never worth the money we offered for him.