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Can the Swans attract players?

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by ShanghaiSwan, Jun 27, 2011.

  1. NorfolkSwan

    NorfolkSwan Well-Known Member

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    Careful hedge, someone will make a note of that quote and remind you of it if that doesn't happen :)

    Seriously though, although I agree with you in principle (you are probably a "bigger" club, whatever that means), it's impossible to predict how we will get on at this early stage. Looking forward to some good games between us.

    Oh and superswan99 - Only way we can maintain our current wage structure AND compete is scour Europe's unfashionable leagues looking for young prospects that will be unfortunately completely unproven in the English League system...but for every Pintado failure there's a Bodde success story waiting to happen....
     
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  2. hedgeworth

    hedgeworth Active Member
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    Hehe, yeah i know, i don't take anything for granted in this division, Blackpool last season were expected to get a maximum of about 6 points but pushed it all the way, and any team playing above themselves or below themselves can either pull away or drop into the mire like every season.
     
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  3. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    but for every Pintado failure there's a Bodde success story waiting to happen....

    norfolk we were league one when you can do this, you wont do that in the premiership you have to know first hand if a player is good enough...
     
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  4. NorfolkSwan

    NorfolkSwan Well-Known Member

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    True enough...why can't life be like Football Manager? ;)
     
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  5. Scottswan

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    Haha. There are countless players who have been "untested" at Prem level who've jumped straight into it with aplomb! Javier Hernandez for one! We'll come good, and as Norfolk said for every dud there's a rough diamond.
     
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  6. HackerJack

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    Of course we know the question exists. However we still do have to budget sensibly. The reality is that unless we go out and spend the whole £40m we have on new players we will be favourites for relegation and even spending that won't be any guarantees. Thus we have to budget accordingly.

    Players who are good but will not bankrupt us with £40k a week wages in the championship are pretty much our level of targets and very few of those will be moving before July/August at the earliest. Most likely we will start to pick up players who are surplus to requirements at other clubs once they bring their own players in. The dregs they may be but that is where we are at right now.
     
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  7. MasterOfNone

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    Let's go for hungry youngsters who will be cheaper but chomping at the bit. Problem is you can't win anything with kids.......
     
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  8. Crackerjack

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    Pretty hard to not to attract players when your in the Premier League . Buck will take his time with his targets . Non targets' agents will be in touch with him also .
     
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  9. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Dai, can't agree with you on this! I don't won't us to line any overrated footballers pocket, and hope that Jenkins stays as tight as a ducks posterior, we need the money to develop the club and Academy, that is what should be the priority of all Jacks! If we come straight back down so what..............
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  10. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Blackpool had problems last year. However i think we are a different prospect ( i hope). People like the way we play. Players arent out of contarcts normally untill 1/7/11. watch this space and then watch what buck does. If we are in the same positiona t the end of july maybe i will start panicing. I believe that within the next 2 weeks or so. the signings will star happening.

    Guys it is still early days. Have some faith.
     
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  11. swainseye

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    Good point Phill. We can spend money willy nilly until the cows come home, and still get relegated.
    It is better to want and not have, than to have and not want! If we can`t afford the wages they want, then they`ll have to look elsewhere to get their "easy money".
     
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  12. Jager

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    There is no way the swans will pay £2m a year for wages on any player, there are players who are far cheaper and will do a job for us, we should not try and compete wage wise with the bigger clubs, blackpool did last season very well, if they managed to stay up it would have been seen as a masterstroke, I don't think we need to spend massively to stay up
     
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  13. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    nobody is saying that we should pay massive wages at all, what me and some others are saying is now we have reached our goal we must do our best to stay here, We wont attract payers of any worth on £15k/week, we are paying Graham much more and he is an unknown. £25k is a more realistic for a team like us and then we will still be one of the lowest payers, we have to be realistic and find a balance to give us a bit of a chance of staying up. we need as top priority a top class goalkeeper and i cant see what we will get if we go cheap, we are here now so lets try and stay here and not do a derby because we could not attract the right players because of our mean wage structure
     
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  14. SWANSMAN

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    Yawn! - We've heard all the we've got more than you story a billion times from our halfwit cousins up the road including the stadium size, squad, years in the league and how it was a given they were going up and blah blah blah!!! I am not saying it's a given that we'd do better than you, but it's also not a given that you'll finish above us too!...
     
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  15. DunvantJack

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    I have a theory that we will see a lot more movement after July 1st as all contracts run until this date. Therefore players in their last year will be out of contract, and those under contract will theoretically have one year less left on theirs...

    This probably has an effect on transfer fees etc..

    Anyhow, there's a long way to go yet, training doesn't start until July 11th and things can happen overnight.
     
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  16. Scottswan

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    Not a given, but you'd expect them to, to be fair!
     
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  17. nadddom

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    omg! dont start on what we should pay players. There a few on here that did'nt want to gamble on Borini last season.

    The Swans will struggle to attract players of any serious quality. All we can offer in most probability is a battle to avoid the drop year after year. That might change if we become an established team in this division. We cant compete in the wages and we cant in the offer of european football of any kind.

    Simples
     
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  18. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    a few loan players but not loads will do, but really we must attract premiership type players on the books and under contract in the next couple of weeks. the stumbling block will be what is the maximum amount we are willing to pay them. pay peanuts and we will get mediocre players that have failed in the premiership with their clubs, I honestly dont know but between £25k and £30k should at least be a starting point and some teams would say that was peanuts. but i think its about right for our first season and see how it goes. our main priority is survival and anything else is a bonus. but what i dont want to see is us not being able to get the right players because we are trying to be to prudent and ignorant of the fact what it will cost to stay up. im sure that wont be the case, well i hope so anyway...
     
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  19. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    Premier type players are not what we need, sod them over paid prima donnas who are completely useless, the best players are out of our league, and trying to attract players like senna who admitally has experience is the wrong thing to do, thats what tossack did and it ruined us for decades!

    Better to get young players in with fire who wants to succeed , really professional football players know what they need to do, premier league experience is an over rated thing IMO , just get out there and play I know we are better than quite a few premier league clubs, that is all we need
     
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  20. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    you have to be a certain standard and you cant fill the team with no experience unless you want us to beat derby's record, thats silly. we need a mixture of experience and what we already have, every player we have has no premiership experience therefor we need 3 or 4 players who have had premiership experience to give the rest who have not some balance and knowledge, this is a big step up for the whole team and manager and chairman so we have to get it right, this is in my opinion.....
     
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