I fear that I'm the only person that's actually understanding the blatantly obvious argument that Ricardo is making here. You can't use hindsight as a reason why we should have sold him, because the circumstances were totally different back then. I don't recall a single fan calling for us to accept a bid - he was in fantastic form - and looked like he could well be worth several more million than Leicester were offering in the future.
Just because someone does not agree does not mean they dont understand. I fully understand what the point is..I dont agree with it. He has been poor for a long time, I never really rated him but was giving him a chance due to the circumstances he faced. A poor reply Jd.
How can you possibly not agree with it? Ricardo isn't saying that he shouldn't have been sold in hindsight, he's saying that, at the time, it would have been absolutely ludicrous to sell him. In hindsight, I'm sure most of us would take £1.5m, I agree that he was poor for a long time but can't see how you could argue that he should have been sold for that price when he was in that kind of form.
Steve Bruce had him back to his near best against Rotherham earlier in the season. Fact is, he's young, he's been out for a season injured and he stil has loads to learn. Maybe his loan should have been to Bury or Aldershot to get his confidence back. After all it worked for Mark Cullen and Sonny Bradley didn't it, who are of similar age and experience!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because we're talking about the message selling him at the start of January would have done to the other players views of the club in January. Had we sold Stewart at the start of January when Leicester wanted him, he was just back from his injury and playing well. So we sell him and then a week later someone comes in for Chester, is Chester going to go "oh well if we hadn't sold him he was going to be **** for the next 3 months", or was he going to go "well we've just sold one of our best players at the first opportunity even though the manager wants him so we're going nowhere, and I want to be a PL player so I might as well go somewhere that they're holding onto players and strengthening".
because i did not rate him at the time and do not rate him now. no hindsight involved here. this is what I like about the boards, different opinions being discussed. I might be in a minority here but that has never stopped me yet old bean. Stewart was over rated..as were others..this will always be the case. others will be underated...as were others...this will always be the case...this is why at my tender age of 46 I still love the game.
i think after his injury, unidimensional play and lack of confidence, he simply got found out. Maybe Steve Bruce can develop some additional strings to his bow!
Your memory not stretch back 2 weeks? Hillsborough away? 3 points courtesy of a solitary Aaron McLean goal. You're not very good at this are you?
Totally agree that Stewart should have gone last January - a package deal with Fryatt would have been a cinch!
My memory is fine thanks.i need to question your reading ability as I have made clear that I take a long term view on players and do not base it on the fact that they scored a winning goal. If that is the basis of Your discussion about McLean then you are not very good at this are you. You actually strengthen my argument. But as I am in generous mood I will send you some more straws to clutch at. Thanks for coming thou you've been a great laugh.
Fat-boy on Twitter been tucked in by mommy then? Pissy posts? Got a ****ing neck kicking off with this one, scooterboy!
It was merely one very recent example of McLean scoring, which netted us 3 points. As in your previous post you implied he couldn't score, but he would run through walls. Keep your straws, you're clearly the 'Straw clutching champ' on this board. McLean has a 1 in 3 ratio for goals this season - and I bet most of those 9 appearances have been as a substitute. His career record is 1 in 3, even after spending 2 seasons in a woefully impotent City side. Nobody could score in our team last season except regular centre forward Fryatt and attacking midfielder Koren. McLean was on the right wing most of last season - they are just the facts. Cheers Champ.
Waste of space IMHO. Couple of flashes but that was it. Never seemed interested in playing for us. Well rid.
What a waste of time getting all pedantic to "win" an argument on a forum. Is it really worth the time and effort? Relax.
On the Stewart issue, given his form from his return from injury and about the end of January we were perfectly justified not selling him. At that time he was one of our prized assets and in good form. Forget what his form has been like since, we didn't sell him on the basis of his form at the turn of the year and the fact that a promotion rival was one of the leading parties interested. The general feeling on this forum was that we should hold on to him at all costs, the club had of course stated that we would not sell any of our key players. If we did sell him, then as other have claimed what message does that send to Fryatt, Chester, Hobbs and Koren? And to the guy who said we should have sold Fryatt in January, you'd be a fool to sell your leading scorer mid season when you're pushing for the top 6.
You said he got a kick early and disappeared, well whatever the score if he's come second in a MOM poll its unlikely he was anonymous, or the other 9 players were even more anonymous. Selling Stewart last January would have been a shocking decision because of the money offered and the form he was in, I'm pretty sure that if the same price was offered now we'd take it. Players form changes and the value changes.
Just a more recent example, have you forgotten McLean miss 2 sitters on Saturday? A 1 on 1 and an open goal. 1 on 1 great chance, great movement to get himself in space and clear, and fluffed his finish right at the keeper for an incredibly easy save. Open goal came from a corner, bounced around the box a bit, fell right to Aaron's feet at the edge of the 6 yard box, he snatched at it and skewed it off wide when it would have been easier to score from point blank range. Love it how mcleans the new van persie after he actually scored at hillsborough, but just how many shocking misses does he have between each goal (which always seem light years apart)
