Grayson got us promoted and then to 7th in the Championship in our first season back. When will you get this has nothing to do with Warnock? He can have all the targets he likes but if Bates refuses to pay up for them or to sign our best current players on new contracts then we're ****ed.
Broken ****ing record shut the **** up and get behind warnock, if he ****s up then fair enough but at least give him the chance to ......................
He hasn't got a chance!!! He isn't a miracle worker. Next season we're looking at no Snodgrass, no Clayton, no White, no McCormack and no Brown. We're also looking at a transfer window that has produced a player we can't put together £400k for! Please tell me where a promotion squad can be built from that situation?
Again give him a chance, he has promotions under his belt, he knows what he is doing, so lets see where we are at the start of the season !! then you can give me the negative vibes but until then I will ramain positive, its ****ing May, not august.
Debating is fine but its the same **** bates this bates that, to be honest I hate the orrible little ****, but I just want to see what warnock can achieve first before I jump back on the bates bandwagon, too many years of him now, I put my last hopes in warnock, as I dont see anyone else taking the job and getting us up do you !!!
Perhaps to you, Marko. Time to get back on the medication, I think. Btw, having quoted me in post #13, you leave the inference that I used the phrase "It'll be better this time". I have never, ever said that. I just have what you've lost (apart from your mind). Hope.
He has promotion under his belt with chairmen who aren't Ken Bates! There's no point waiting and seeing when anyone with half a brain can see what's happening from a mile off!
So explain to me then!!!! as you cannot say **** all until the end of the transfer window, until then I would rather discuss possible targets.
Strach - suggest you just need to learn to bite your tongue if you don't like debating the main, numero uno, issue that impacts all things LUFC: Ken Bates. The rest is peripheral. minor. inconsequential. because Bates controls every aspect, but your method of dealing with it is to brush it under the carpet and concentrate on the peripheral, minor, inconsequential stuff because you are sick of the elephant in the room. So be it, but don't expect others to agree to your conditions
But Elmo, this forum doesn't debate bates. We're uniformly against him. Takes 2 sides to debate. Marko's staccato rants are not debate, it's just him repeating himself ovr & over & poisoning other areas of discussion.
I don't expect people to agree that's why its called debating, I never bite my tongue ever !!!! as for control probably, as for the same **** coming from you, definitely, conditions ?? what conditions ?? I don't brush it under the carpet i know the reality of the situation I have been supporting Leeds since 1973, so think I haven't been there and seen it, those dark days of the early 80s are still ingrained on my soul.
Those dark days of the 80s you speak of constitute the best memories I have of LUFC. The idea that this forum does not debate Bates is incorrect. Bates is LUFC. Everything LUFC is controlled or directly influenced by him. If Masrko wants to discuss bates in respect of a discussion about LUFC I would say that that is his prerogative
