Buemi just as quick as Vettel?

As most of us know, Vettel is one of the fastest drivers in F1 today. I worked out that surprisingly Vettels average qualifying gap over Bourdais was 0.327. Buemi's is 0.300. Obviously Vettel has gotten better since then but hasnt Buemi? Even though Buemi had less races to go up against Bourdais but it was nearly as good as Vettel.

This is my rough work out, not necessarily correct as I had quite alot of distractions

 

This site is fast becoming the Buemi fan club!

 

In my eyes Buemi is an unproven talent, which is fairly good thing to be so early in an F1 career. One to stick around anyway, but I'm not sure how far up the field he can get though.

 

Im not really his biggest fan. I was just surprised. I barely rate him tbh

 

I still think it is hard to judge just how good Vettel is because since 2009 he has had the best car and for most of that time it has been the fastest by quite a margin.

 

Well.... Buemi is owning Algersuari this season....

I do think Vettel's Torro Rosso was a lot better than TR cars that Buemi drove, but throughout Vettel's career he's done incredible things in all the cars he's driven

Buemi is yet to shine in my opinion. Maybe it's his car, but he never looks special. If Ricciardo does come into Torro Rosso, Franz Tost has made it clear in the past that Ricciardo would be taking Buemi's seat, even though Buemi doesn't deserve to be replaced.

 

stick hamilton in that red bull, sit back and watch him rack up 20 wins. that is all.

 

To be honest, Im not really fussed by buemi. I dont think he will achieve much in F1 and has spent to much time in the Red Bull Jr program to actually proove much. Ricciardo looks a promising talent and should be given a shot and in the other STR seat they should have an experianced hand like Glock, Sutil, that kind of thing.

Anyway, I dont think STR will last much longer before its baught out anyway and we can regain another serious team in F1

 

Stick Hamilton, Rosberg, Button, Alonso, Massa or Kubica in that car and watch them rack up 20 wins. Stick anyone else in that car and watch Mark Webber rack up wins

 

Alex - I'm inclined to agree.

 

These sorts of comparisons tend to lead nowhere since every situation is different with potentially all manner of contributory factors.

But is "Buemi just as quick as Vettel?" - I very much doubt it: As far as I am aware, none of the top teams are interested in Buemi for a start (at least at present)…

 

There you can see how Buemi fared against Vettel with the same car:
http://www.driverdb.com/standings/96-2004/stats/

Vettel doesnt drive the Red Bull for no reason. People like Theissen, Berger, Haug and Newey noticed.....

 

Haters just gone hate vettel dominating the field, same thing can be said for the rest of them regarding kobayashi and di resta having their seats and maybe doing a better job.

Fact is vettel/red bull combo is working better than any on the grid, regardless of the car.

 

Eh?
The fact is the Vettel/Red Bull combination includes the car!

- But yes, I agree with you that this combination is working better than any other on the grid - and by quite a margin!

 

Adrian Newey might disagree.

 

Buemi's a decent little driver, it's always irritated me slightly that people rate Alguersuari higher when Buemi's always outperformed him. The comparison between Vettel and Buemi is interesting, but Bourdais is hardly the best yardstick. You can't really read anything into those 2004 results either since they (especially Buemi) were so young. Same with the Vettel-di Resta comparisons. Also, just because you have the same machinery, doesn't mean you have the same car; a good set up can be literally seconds faster than a bad one.

The best gauge is to just compare what you see (assuming you can look at it in an unbiased manner, which many people can't). Buemi hasn't made the impact Vettel did by a long way. You could see Vettel was something special even in the Toro Rosso, same with Alonso when they were Minardi. I think Ricciardo, and maybe Vergne, are the drivers Red Bull see as being potential title winners. Buemi is a solid driver though and definitely deserves his place on the grid.

 

And Kimi might disagree with that.

 

I do hope you weren't serious, in the 4 races he's only finish 3 of them ahead of his team-mate, which already destroys your argument.

And if Hamilton, Alonso, Button, Rosberg, Massa and Kubica were all in the HRT they'd all end up at the back.

 

You think Raikkonen would agree with you that Newey's car is irrelevant in RBR's and Vettel's success? Really?

 

You missed out the 20 poles, 20 fastest laps,

Maybe a bit optomistic but not far off,