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Bruno Senna: An Evaluation So Far?

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  1. AS1960

    AS1960 Member

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    and what with them calling him to pit at the end of the first lap. I doubt Grojean is any better
     
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  2. di Fredsta!

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    He didnt listen to blue flags ;)
     
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  3. Masanari

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    For any particular reason, or just because you do not like him?
     
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  4. AS1960

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    the damage was already done...algersuari and Petrov just got away, really nice stewerding
     
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  5. Julius Caesar

    Julius Caesar Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    From my perspective nobody did. They were inconsistant in punishing it. Maldonado was done twice <laugh>
     
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  6. di Fredsta!

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    I dont like him, he's not really impressed me at all, although not much people do nowadays :p
     
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  7. Julius Caesar

    Julius Caesar Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Kers failure again?
     
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  8. Masanari

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    Consecutive races now his KERS has not worked. :(
     
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  9. Max Whiplash

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    He's having a rotten time right now but I'm sure Boullier is well aware that their car has gone from podium material to struggling back of midfield over the course of this season. The strategic gambles are desperate and are failing miserably too.

    But of course if you don't like Bruno, it's all grist for the mill.
     
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  10. Aaltonen

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    I think he's just rubbish. Just look at the table and compare him with the driver he replaced.
     
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  11. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I? Forum Moderator

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    Look at the performance of the renualt when the driver he replaced (Lets not get into names) was driving compared to how the car is doing now? Its a little unfair to judge him on points if the car is not capable.
     
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  12. Julius Caesar

    Julius Caesar Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Because car speed is static right?

    Petrovs points
    before NH sacking 32
    After 4

    Heidfeld was 0.5 seconds slower on average in qualy than Petrov. Senna is an average of 0.08s faster. If you say spa influences that take it out and Senna is 0.07 slower. 3 factors in Sennas poor points tally.

    1) Terrible car
    2) Bad Luck
    3) Poor consistancy

    He is quick, especially when you consider he is a mid season replacement with no testing.
     
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  13. di Fredsta!

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    But, qualifying isnt everything.

    Heidfeld was consistantly beating Petrov in the race.
    He was ahead 34-32, and Senna is behind 4-2(?), and the 2 came when Petrov was hit by Liuzzi's great start at Monza, making him get no points there, where he inevitably would have done.
     
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  14. Julius Caesar

    Julius Caesar Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    True, but it means there is pace and therfore potential in Senna. If he can properly apply it in the races.

    He has also had similar misfortune to petrov in Kers failures, poor strategy and unlucky starts (he ended up last in that Monza incident)
     
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  15. di Fredsta!

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    Thats the thing, he's got the pace, but no consistancy. I'm not really into those type of people tbh, cant rely on them <laugh>
     
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  16. Masanari

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    Why has he not got consistency? You do not see him spinning or going off track all the time during races do you? In fact apart from his start at Spa I can't think of any real mistakes or off track excursions he has done during any races.
     
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  17. cosicave

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    Well, I think you know my opinion already Mifune.
    I'm not going to research all of his 2011 races in an effort to provide 'evidence' to support my opinion. No doubt you have already done this. All I will say is that my impression is one of untidiness and inconsistency in his driving (nothing to do with the car).
     
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  18. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    From the races they're finished Petrov has a average position of 11.8 and Senna of 13.4. If we only use data from races they both finished petrov is still on 11.8 and Senna is now down to 14.4. In a earlier post (Here) I worked out that other rookies like di Resta and Perez are almost exactly 1 place behind their team mates on average.
    Its still early days for Senna but he needs to get a move on soon.
     
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  19. Forza Bianchi

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    http://en.espnf1.com/renault/motorsport/story/64748.html

    No mention of Bruno.
     
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  20. Julius Caesar

    Julius Caesar Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Or Petrov. We always knew Grosjean would get Kubica's seat. Its about the other one, which petrov threw into question yesterday.

    But yes i do expect Senna to be dropped, then Petrov, then Grosjean as the driver blame culture continues under this clown.
     
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