Bruce Considering Future

[Tentotwo]

Even more radical idea.......how about not sacking anyone or looking for scapegoats and actually get behind the team for the remaining few games ?

You mean get behind the side no matter what ? Would be nice to think our home crowd ever really had that kind of passion but the reality is our home support is so diluted and apathetic these days I actually think many connected to the club have been spoilt rotten by success and cannot be arsed anymore.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

This idea that being critical on a messageboard is failing to support the team. We'll it's ridiculous.

Steve Bruce is well respected within the game. Other managers rate him, respect him. He's had a good career as a player and manager. We had a qPR fan on her wishing us luck and saying what a good manager he is.
Yet on here he's a ****ing idiot tactically incompetent etc etc .Now its Phelan too.
I'd love to see one of these experts go up and have a chat with Brucey or Phelan and explain where they are going wrong.

 

[City Man]

That's a silly post for a variety of reasons. Finances and support might well mean we're going to struggle if we don't go up regardless of manager. What exactly is Bruce's caliber? Are we seeing the fruits of it now? And how daft would it be to take Pennock out of the academy?

It's almost 2 months now since Bruce got Manager of the Month.
What's he done in Feb and March?
We need to be appointing whoever won the awards in February and March.

 

[Fez]

This idea that being critical on a messageboard is failing to support the team. We'll it's ridiculous.

But it's his idea, it's the only one he can come up with.

 

[TigerRoo]

Steve Bruce is well respected within the game. Other managers rate him, respect him. He's had a good career as a player and manager. We had a qPR fan on her wishing us luck and saying what a good manager he is.
Yet on here he's a ****ing idiot tactically incompetent etc etc .Now its Phelan too.
I'd love to see one of these experts go up and have a chat with Brucey or Phelan and explain where they are going wrong.

You amaze me Chazz, after over 20,000 posts on these boards surely you must have realized by now that we have the greatest number of 'Would-be" Managers than any other boards. They are invariably much wiser AFTER the event of course and love to expound as to what they would have done if they had have been in Bruce's position. These self styled experts then creep back into their everyday positions earning a living far removed from Football Management (except Football Manager of course where they excel).
To them all I say Bollocks!
We have a chance of winning all of our remaining games and ending up Champions but with our current strike force this remains a little doubtful owing to our recent drought in front of goal. Could happen though - in which case Bruce will receive the plaudits of all the fans (whether on these boards or not) and there will undoubtedly be a demand for him to be Knighted.
Personally I think he has just about had a belly-full of Hull City and is at a crossroad in his career. He cannot get the players he needs and therefore cannot go any further but, if speculation is right (it rarely is), then Villa could be the "light at the end of tunnel" that he is looking for.

 

[Fez]

Steve Bruce is well respected within the game. Other managers rate him, respect him. He's had a good career as a player and manager.

The same can be said about many managers not in employment or at a lower level; it's a very weak argument - our performances with the best squad (he says) we have ever had is a more convincing one. Or are you happy with performances and results?

We had a qPR fan on her wishing us luck and saying what a good manager he is.

So that's it then, that makes him a good manager, a QPR fan said so?

I've been asking the question of what Phelan brings for quite a time now - what can you point to?

I would love to question Bruce about quite a few of his team decisions and tactics, but that is unlikely to happen, so why not discuss it on this football forum?

 

[balkan tiger]

It's all the supporters fault. If only you had got behind the team and cheered them on when they were playing their ****est we wouldn't be in this mess. As for those of you who booed, well what can I say, you must have cost us at least 10 points. You ****s.

 

[neverdullinhull]

But it's his idea, it's the only one he can come up with.

For clarification I wouldn't get rid of Bruce at this stage of the season but removing Phelan would fire a warning shot. Another idea is to ask Bruce if there is a coach out there that he would like to bring in for the remainder of the season who might fire up the players or have some good tactical suggestions to contribute. I just worry that stumbling along may not be enough for us and I want to see some impetus, nothing wrong in that.

 

[Fez]

They are invariably much wiser AFTER the event of course and love to expound as to what they would have done if they had have been in Bruce's position.

That's the best Pot - Kettle post of the season!

Where were you, in the summer and beyond, when we were calling for a proper, proven striker, we wanted quality at in that position. You was quiet, wasn't you, no mention of Striker's arseholes, no criticism from you was there, TigerRoo? Couldn't bloody make it up.

 

[Craigo]

If we'd bought Gray when at the time we bought Hernandez, he'd have cost £500k.

We were pursuing Rhodes as a replacement for Long when Gray signed for Brentford from Luton for £500k.
Hindsight can throw up interesting things, but unless Bruce had a crystal ball it's a bit unfair to hold that against him.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

The same can be said about many managers not in employment or at a lower level; it's a very weak argument - our performances with the best squad (he says) we have ever had is a more convincing one. Or are you happy with performances and results?



So that's it then, that makes him a good manager, a QPR fan said so?

I've been asking the question of what Phelan brings for quite a time now - what can you point to?

I would love to question Bruce about quite a few of his team decisions and tactics, but that is unlikely to happen, so why not discuss it on this football forum?

Thought i'd mention the QPR fan seeing as you constantly remind us you know Sunland fans who think Bruce is ****.

That bit reminds me of the Jewish bloke begging God to let him win the Lottery week after week. Hymey meet me half way buy a ****ing ticket.

 

[Fez]

For clarification I wouldn't get rid of Bruce at this stage of the season but removing Phelan would fire a warning shot. Another idea is to ask Bruce if there is a coach out there that he would like to bring in for the remainder of the season who might fire up the players or have some good tactical suggestions to contribute. I just worry that stumbling along may not be enough for us and I want to see some impetus, nothing wrong in that.

I agree, sacking Bruce would achieve nothing at this stage. Many folk blame the players for our loss of form and I don't totally disagree with that, but it is them and them only who will get us promoted. As hard as I try, I cannot see anything that can be attributed to Phelan, nothing stands out, no stamp on any particular area of the team, no indication of him being involved and trying to change something. There might be, I might of missed it, anything that can be discussed on here would be of interest.

 

[Fez]

Thought i'd mention the QPR fan seeing as you constantly remind us you know Sunland fans who think Bruce is ****.

That bit reminds me of the Jewish bloke begging God to let him win the Lottery week after week. Hymey meet me half way buy a ****ing ticket.

You'll find I have only mentioned Sunderland fans saying he was **** when I defended him in his early days with us; I always said he was sacked too early, but our experience is tending to prove them right and me wrong. Other than that I used my own judgement to make comment, as have so many others. Your QPR comment was barmy, just that.

That's a **** joke.

What are Phelans good points that make him an asset to the club? Stop trying to have a dig and try discussing.

 

[Charon]

He cannot get the players he needs and therefore cannot go any further

****ing hilarious - the whole team is his players - he's spent millions more than any other manager we've ever had and we're playing **** negative football more times than not - how much more money does he need to spend before he gets it right

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

You'll find I have only mentioned Sunderland fans saying he was **** when I defended him in his early days with us; I always said he was sacked too early, but our experience is tending to prove them right and me wrong. Other than that I used my own judgement to make comment, as have so many others. Your QPR comment was barmy, just that.

That's a **** joke.

What are Phelans good points that make him an asset to the club? Stop trying to have a dig and try discussing.

How the **** can anyone on here discuss that you pompous prick.

Ok he's doing the same job as he did at Man U without the same results. Job done.

 

[AmalCarb]

You mean get behind the side no matter what ? Would be nice to think our home crowd ever really had that kind of passion but the reality is our home support is so diluted and apathetic these days I actually think many connected to the club have been spoilt rotten by success and cannot be arsed anymore.

Some of the worse supporters in the league our lot mate.


Pathetic bullshit rules on here.


Bruce IN

 

[southerntiger]

The whole Barmby spat was (at least publicly) about rEhab telling Barmby to spend and Barmby 'wouldn't'.
(Pass me the sack of Saxa would you?)
Unconfirmed reports say it was all about Barmby's refusal to 'respect' the authority of rEhab, leading to a confrontation.
As for Pearson, he was an Adam Pearson appointment and you can't imagine him tolerating too much backstage bollox. Under Pearson, we had turned the corner and were heading upwards....no footballing reasons for him to leave.
The gagging order on Barmby tells its own story.
Suspect that when Steve Bruce publishes his autobiography, the section on City will be an eye-opener in terms of what he has had to manage 'backstage'.

Yes looking forward to the biog.
I love Brucey but i do think every manager has a sell by date and the end of this season could be his.
After what i saw / heard at Forest game i thought why would anyone want to stay with us if they had another option.

 

[TigerRoo]

****ing hilarious - the whole team is his players - he's spent millions more than any other manager we've ever had and we're playing **** negative football more times than not - how much more money does he need to spend before he gets it right

It isn't the money 'charon', it's the players that he wants but, for whatever reason, he can't get.
Akpom and Diomande weren't the players he wanted but he had to take what he could.

 

[Fez]

How the **** can anyone on here discuss that you pompous prick.

Ok he's doing the same job as he did at Man U without the same results. Job done.

Anyone who disagrees with you, by your reckoning, is pompous, but that's fine if it's the limit of your discussion skills.

He had a much different manager and support team at Man U, he wasn't exactly scintillating at Norwich, though, was he?

Try not to get so vexed, Chazz; I fully appreciate you put attending games so high in your judgement of other folks opinions, or should I say the right to have one. Then again, I seem to remember you attending games and seeing something totally different to everyone else. Perhaps you're right, I shouldn't ask you for an insightful opinion.

 

[TigerRoo]

I thought this was hilarious from Harry Redknap (I didn't know he was the Manager of Australia's Socceroo's next opponents, Jordan) from a video I have just watched. Some of Bruce's critics will love this. He was being harassed by a West Ham supporter, next to the dugout, who was constantly abusing West Ham's striker Lee Chapman so at half time Harry took Chapman off and told this fan to get on the pitch if he thought he could do any better. The fan took his offer up and would you believe scored a goal.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/sep/05/harry-redknapp-played-fan-west-ham