How can it be a distraction. There is more atmosphere at the game now then at any other time at the KC.
Surely the Liverpool game proves that, far from being a distraction, the CityTillIDie chants have improved the atmosphere and galvanised the team.
The way I read it is that it is a distraction, in the sense that players do notice it but they're professional enough (or at least Meyler is, not sure he can speak for everyone) to block it out . Meyler clearly says that he notices what's happening but that he manages to block it out professionally. He shouldn't have to though. And the liverpool game was just a start, it may not be that bad now and have affected them but the animosity is sure to increase after the latest events. Of course, it's not a distraction to the point where players stop to stare at the stands. But footballers should only focus on football. They shouldn't have to block anything out, that's an extra effort that shouldn't detract from the football. You're completely delusional if you think that animosity towards the owner would be anything but a distraction, just as it would be if it was directed at the manager or a specific player. The atmosphere within the camp may be affected. In fact, EVERY interview, whether it'd be with Bruce or players, mentions the ongoing fight between fans and AA. How can that not affect players? How can they not be wondering what the future will be? Wouldn't be surprised if the likes of Aluko want out because they're concerned about the future of the club. ALSO, If it doesn't affect players because they block it out, then you might as well say that boos targeted at specific players wouldn't affect them. Yet It usually does affect them. Sometimes it spurs them on and sometimes it pisses them off but it affects them. It's also PATHETIC to imply that CTWD should take credit for the Liverpool win. If BY YOUR LOGIC the crowd's noise isn't affecting players in a negative way then it shouldn't be affecting them in a positive way either right? Since they ignore it altogether so professionally? Highly contradictory. Aren't you ashamed that this majority of yours didn't sing and therefore support the players before this row? Yet you want to act as the 12th man when really the motives are completely unrelated to football? WHat a joke. Sing for the ****ing players not to deliver a message to AA and stick to football when you're at a football match.
I wonder how much this nonsense will effect the signing of a striker in January, if we're chasing a player who has another offer from elsewhere, will they be put off by the fact that our owner is a bit bonkers and tells the fans they can die? It certainly won't help.
Why should it increase? The application is in and we have moved onto the FA. Assem Allam is now irrelevant. Its all down to the FA, as we said it always would be. Considering the reaction (big increase insults and negativity towards AA) on here following the official news of the application, I can see that mirroring in the stands vs Stoke. I don't see how singing City Till I Die loudly is a distraction to Hull City players. Please don't try and make it out to be "just badges, leaflets and a few sing songs", Went from CTID to "we said no Allam" to what next? I heard a few nasty things at the Emirates also, how are you sure that those whispers won't turn into full on songs? I don't see how singing City Till I Die shows any animosity to the owner. He said we could call his club anything we want. Perhaps Sone Aluko's expereince of his last club is informing his decision on whether to sign a new contract. Maybe he's not prepared to gamble that changing the name to Hull Tigers is going to bring in increased income. Once again trying to downplay CTWD's actions. I don't think it's fair that you don't take any responsibility for some of the idiots and disrespectful thoughts/words you have attracted with your new club. I agree that you can't control it but stop harping on about "we only made leaflets, we're saints" . Everything can be simplified to make it look harmless. There are consequences. But I guess you'll just blame AA for starting it. I'm fine with you personally. I'm not fine with how overboard some might go following your path and going one step further. Hull City's players should take nearly all the credit for the Liverpool win. The bulk of the rest goes to Steve Bruce and his assistants. What's left should be divided up between Assem Allam, the other employees of Hull Tigers Limited and the supporters. You really are a strange person if you think anybody believes CTWD should be credited with the Liverpool win. In this thread a lone 2 posters have implied that it isn't a coincidence we beat liverpool when the singing was so vociferous. Its always nicer to be appreciated than disparaged. Do you respond better to somebody saying well done? that's not the point I was making. Are you implying that players can somehow block out the negative but soak in the positive from the crowd? Either it affects them or it doesn't. But that goes for both positive and negative atmospheres. Some people sing some people don't. Apart from a League Cup match away at Derby when all the home fans seemed to be singing its always been like this. The fact that more people sing is to me a step in the right direction. It's only a step in the right direction if you omit the context. It's quite clever of CTWD to have disguised a historical city chant into a protest chant. They can deny any wrong doing that way. Much better than "you're not welcome any more" . I just don't accept your attempt to disguise protest chants into supportive chants. The only step in the right direction will be when this whole ****ing mess is kept away for 105 mins each saturday. I did not want to ****ing hear "we said no Allam" while trying to watch my team play Arsenal.
3-14159265358979323846264 it might be best if you don't go to the Stoke game because you seem a bit hysterical about the CTWD protests and really, you ain't seen nothing yet.
On a debate some time ago about fans not singing, some on here said that singing was irrelevant and made no difference as the players were unaware of it and those just sitting there like dummies were doing just as much for the team as those getting behind them vocally. Seems they were talking nonsense. Otherwise SB wouldn't be appealing for the fans to give vocal support he would be asking for peace and quiet so the players could concentrate.Also,strange how one week fans chanting City Til We Die putd the players off against a poor team but the following week, with even more chanting of the same song we beat Liverpool the first goal coming just after the chanting after 19.04 minutes of that song.
3.14.......... What an hysterical person you are. Getting yourself all wound up like this. A proper Mr Angry or just someone winding people up on the forum I can't decide. Tell you what if you don't like what the fans are singing start you own little choir and see how many people want to join you. By the way have you come up with how changing he name will make millions yet ?
Don't worry about that, he rarely troubles Hull City with his presence, he'll be firmly rooted to his armchair.
You really should'nt say that. It will be interpreted as running on to the pitch etc etc. You will be starting rumours. As CTWD have stated, no trouble, just keep singing. By the way I saw on twitter that the Stoke fans were contemplating singing "maulled by your owner".
3-14159265358979323846264 I'm not going to quote your reply because we'd end up with a book. When CTWD started we had three broad aims, to support the club, to support Assem Allam's ownership and oppose the name change. Over the past few months we have grown from a demoralised (I think that is a fair comment) set of campaigners to a campaign with worldwide respect. We have done that by remaining true to our founding principles. City Till I Die at 19:04 was an essential part of our campaign. It allowed us to say who we are, City fans, and send a message to Assem Allam. I think your comment that it was clever is a backhanded complement. It wasn't meant to be clever. It was meant to bring City fans together, we are still part of the Tiger Nation whatever our view on the name change. I don't downplay our actions. I think we have guided all those who are angry and frustrated with Assem Allam into doing something positive rather than negative. A civil war in the stands will damage the club, we have tried to stop that happening. I suspect that is why people opposed to us always point to the few who post derogatory comments about Assem Allam rather than the many that have kept up a dignified protest. I've had a discussion with Late Night Bus about We say No and I have some sympathy with his view. But the chant isn't disrespectful, yes it could have been more respectful, but it only uses his surname, something not uncommon in British culture. In a democracy we have the right to say no, which is all we are doing. Assem Allam is welcome to the vast majority of City supporters. After all he has achieved why wouldn't he be welcome? We oppose the change of name to Hull Tigers, that is all. He is the one who said we are not welcome following his team.
We shouldn't be apologising for singing our own bleeding songs because it upsets these tarts. **** 'em! City aren't dead yet.
Yeah and if you are not careful you will get what you wish for and be watching Hull City in League 2-you and the other 3 or 4 thousand. While the rest of us will be confined to reading about it in the Wycombe Gazette or the Crew Enquirer as our team dissappears of the map. Personally I'd rather watch City in the Premier League and be called the Hull Tigers! See all the games on the internet, read all about ii in the Internatioanl and National Press and discuss it with a local, national and international fan base on forums such as this, watch the highlights on Tiger Player and then watch the game again on the same. The CTWD in an attempt to cut of its nose to spite its face opens the rest of us to being condemned to a footbal wilderness and without question has the potential to affect the players performance on the field and is a distaction that may prove costly to us all in the end.
Only if you're daft enough to accept the ridiculous premise that the club name affects success on or off the pitch and most of us aren't that daft.
Were any of the insults as bad as this one? "THey need to go, get rid of the cancer asap even if it means struggling next year" What do you like to hear whilst sat in your armchair watching your team play Arsenal on an illegal stream? Maybe something along the lines of? "You're a cancer Assam, you're a cancer, oh oh go ASAP" Or maybe "Assam is a nobody, a ****ing clueless nobody na na na na, na na na na" Just asking like for clarity.
No, my logic is that the protests aren't affecting the players, as supported by Meyler's comments. However other people are saying they are affecting the players, in which case I'm sarcastically saying that the Liverpool result must be down to the protests then since we scored during the protests.
