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  1. petersaxton

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    I'm not one to generalise either but blacks are usually violent and thick and ex servicemen are usually homeless and mentally ill .
     
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    I've had my second covid vaccination
     
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    I wonder if the timing of that post could have been better, given the picture above it. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    Logic not your longest suite us it? The fact that it's a harbour doesn't actually exclude the others. I live in a town that's in Suffolk, that doesn't mean that it's not part of East Angular.
     
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    What happens in French elections is that once the early rounds are out of the way everyone gangs up on poor Marine. Don't hold your breath on that one
     
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    Would they want another 5 years of Macron?
     
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    Nice one. I'm booked in for my second jab on the 13th, the day after I get back home.
     
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    A nice Sunday read.

    When my town, Jarrow, was on it's knees and the worst hit town in the UK. We, as always, were under a Labour MP.

    However, it was a scum bag Tory that stepped up and ploughed his own money into the cause to help us get back on our feet. The loony left think that people on Tyneside who vote Tory are voting for people that don't care about us. Sir John Jarvis done more for us than any Labour MP ever has.

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    The Tory MP from Surrey who decided to help out a deprived Tyneside town - Chronicle Live

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    When the Jarrow March set off for London on October 5 1936, the prominent role taken by the town’s Labour MP Ellen Wilkinson ensured she has been remembered down the decades.

    But a Tory MP who also played a significant part during the desperate Depression times which led to the Jarrow Crusade has, by comparison, faded somewhat into the historical background.

    Sir John Jarvis, Conservative member for Guildford, High Sheriff of Surrey, wealthy businessman and economist, certainly never had two blocks of high-rise town centre flats named after him, as did Ellen.

    But two years before the Jarrow March, Sir John set up the Surrey Fund which raised £40,000 for projects in the unemployment-crippled town, and ploughed around £1million of his own money into his Tyneside mission.

    For his first visits to Jarrow, Sir John’s profile could not have been more low key – he wore a flat cap and called himself Mr Jones.

    But who was John Jarvis, and why did he mount such a large-scale operation as he neared his 60th birthday for a town a world away from his 17th century manor house in Surrey?

    Local historian Tom Tweddell, who grew up in neighbouring Hebburn, has been given access to family papers by Sir John’s grand daughter Tessa Preece.

    Tom’s findings have been published in his new book, The Other Jarrow Crusade.

    A retired civil servant living in West Boldon in South Tyneside, Tom became interested in Sr John as he worked on his previous book, a history of Jarrow and Hebburn Athletics Club, which came out last year.

    The club was founded as part of Sir John’s efforts, and Tom says: “ I wanted to know what Sir John Jarvis was really like, and what motivated his interest.

    “I think he was an energetic and determined person in the Christian philanthropic tradition, who felt obliged to help Jarrow and felt he could do something for the town.

    “Jarrow was his adopted town and he deserves more recognition for what he did. This was the man who stepped forward when no one else did, and who embarked on his own one-man crusade.”

    There is a plaque to Sir John on the athletics club house and another was installed in the 1950s in Jarrow Town Hall, partly recording the provision of the building’s chiming clock which was provided by residual money from the Surrey Fund.

    But Tom is calling for a bridge at Valley View Park - another Sir John Jarvis project – to be named after him.

    “Sir John came from Surrey to Jarrow to help a town in chaotic decline in the distressed days of the 1930s,” says Tom. “Because of his determination and imagination, an attempt was made to turn around the town’s fortunes.”

    Sir John said in his maiden House of Commons speech: “As High Sheriff of Surrey, I looked round for the most difficult job in which I could help my fellow countrymen and I found it on Tyneside, in Jarrow, the worst-hit town in the country, where three out of four men were out of work.

    “I appealed to my county to start a fund in the interests of Tyneside, and of Jarrow in particular, to bring hope to these men.”

    As part of Sir John’s measures, almost 1,000 jobless men started work on creating the park, 40,000 items of clothing and bedding were sent to Jarrow, the sports ground for football, athletics and cycling was laid out and a football league of 24 teams of unemployed men was started.

    A total of 2,500 homes and community buildings were redecorated. “We also redecorated clubs, halls and welfare centres, to give hope and let them know that they were not forgotten,” said Sir John.

    For Tom, there was “the paradox of a rich, racehorse-owning Carlton Club member becoming associated with the failed town of Jarrow”.

    He had entered the modest family firm at the age of 15 and turned it into the national building company of Jarvis and Sons. He was also chairman of the London Bus Company and owned a racing stud.

    “At the heart of the matter was the recognition that something in Jarrow was fundamentally and seriously wrong and someone was needed to step forward and help put it right. He would be that person,” says Tom. “The outcome was that Sir John clearly formed a genuine bond with Jarrow.”

    In a speech, Sir John said: “ I went to the Ministry of Labour and enquired which was the worst distressed area in England. The answer came back ‘Jarrow’ and so to Jarrow I went.”

    In the Commons he told MPs: “Never have I seen such a grim sight as I saw I Jarrow. Eight out of 10 men were unemployed. Many of the houses were hovels. Imagine yourself dumped in a town like that.”

    On October 4, 1934, he launched the Surrey Fund at Claridge’s Hotel in Mayfair in London and posted his appeal to all 50,000 homes in Surrey. He said: “Only a miracle can save Tyneside. I believe in miracles.”

    He said: “I have just returned from Jarrow. I am horrified that in Christian England such things can be. These people are English folk like ourselves. They are not slackers – they want work.”

    Sir John paid, from his own pocket, £97,500 for the redundant liner Olympic, sister ship of the Titanic, and £108,00 for the liner Berengaria to be broken up at Jarrow to provide work.

    He financed the setting up of industrial ventures such as Jarrow Metal Industries and Jarrow Tube Works, which were opened in 1938 by the Duchess, and employed hundreds of people.

    Tom says: “He was a special person who embarked on a compassionate crusade. Perhaps the most significant aspect of his involvement is the personal investment he made. Jarrow had his full attention – the personal time, money and travel testify to that.”

    In Guildford Cathedral lies the Jarrow Stone, commemorating the March, and described as coming from the “remains of Jarrow Priory”.
     
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    ^^^Didn't read lol
     
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    ^^^^^

    Knew that was coming but as long as my right wing buddies read it I'm happy.
     
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    Cheers for that. I only 'know' the very basics of the situation in Jarrow, so it's interesting to read more of it. When that's considered, along with the great squalor, disease and poverty in many rural areas and towns, including the London described by Dickens, and consider that they had poor houses for people that fell even below that, it makes the question of 'white privelige' even more laughable for most.
     
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    You spelt that wrong, but no not a protestant
     
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