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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by -jordan-, Jun 3, 2011.

  1. F1 2011

    F1 2011 New Member

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    Realllly... Vettel has a car that is nearly one second quicker than Lewis's and Jenson's.... If they were given the same car as Vettel they would be able to beat him and match him. As for footy I might agree with you there considering flops like Euro 2008 and South Africa 2010.
     
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  2. monkey6

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    Well that proves my last point then that it's the car doing most of the work therefore detracting from the achievements of the drivers themselves however many championships they win. And for that reason they'll never be in the same bracket as sportsman that do it all themselves.
     
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  3. RAVENBLACK

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    Like caber tossers.
     
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  4. Lucaaas

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    Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney, Ferdinand, Terry, Ashley Cole etc.
     
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  5. The Raging Oxter

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    Lampard - not bad, not technically great but good finisher and diver

    Gerrard - good at driving team on, good finisher, brilliant diver

    Ferdinand - decent central defender but suffers from lapses in concentration and pace is gone

    Terry - committed and fights for the jersey. Not great technically and positioning suspect

    Ashley Cole - good player

    Rooney - <laugh> If that prick was any nationality other than English he wouldn't be worth a mention. Most over-rated walloper in football.

    Seriously, how many of those players would get into the Barcelona team? Not a one.
     
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  6. monkey6

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    Correct
     
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  7. Zinc Alloy

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    ST, I think you just about summed up the 'Golden generation' perfectly.

    It's coming home, my arse.<ok>
     
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  8. Lucaaas

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    I think you're doing half of those players a disservice. 99.9% of the world's footballers wouldn't get into the Barca team, it doesn't make them bad players though!

    If you look at the talent pool England have got and compare it to other countries, then I'd say they're only behind Argentina, Brazil, France, Germany and Spain in terms of talent to pick from.

    I don't feel England players are overrated individually, I think they're rated fairly, they might be overrated as a collective unit but indivdually they're up there with any other nation in terms of talent.
     
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  9. Trypsin-1

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    Have no idea how people can call our sportsmen bad when we have Shaun Derry.
     
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  10. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but that's the problem though isn't it? You shouldn't be behind them. At the very least you should be level with Germany and France yet they've won more major international tournaments than England. Germany and England are similar in terms of population yet they've won both the World Cup and European Championships three times. And the last time you played them with your so-called 'golden generation' they hammered you 4-1.

    I'm not having a go at English players per se. Scottish players are mostly ****e so we've nothing to shout about but so many English players are over-rated.
     
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  11. Lucaaas

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    I agree that England should be closer to Germany and France, but the problem is for whatever reason the premier league has developed a huge audience while the Bundesliga and Ligue 1 haven't quite caught the imagination of people outside Germany and France, respectively. That means that there's a lot less money circulating around and that there is less pressure on the coaches to get results, meaning they'll be less apprehensive to chuck a young player into the first team. In the Premier League it's a lot harder to do that, the only managers that can afford to do that in the Premier league are one who have already cemented their status as club legends like Dalglish, Wenger and Ferguson. For example, the lack of job security at Chelsea undermines their whole youth policy, as a manager wouldn't dare throwing a youngster into the first team incase he costs Chelsea the game and the manager his job.

    I agree that many English players are overrated, but I don't feel they're the main players in the team, I think it's more the people who don't get called up to the squad. Adam Johnson, Aaron Lennon, Ledley King, Scott Parker, Matt Jarvis, Kevin Davies etc. Their abilities get overexaggerated just so they can criticise the manager for not picking them in the squad.

    And fortunately, or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, my Golden generation was Craig Bellamy, John Hartson, Robbie Savage and Ryan Giggs.
     
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  12. THe Mighty Huth Rocks

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    And fortunately, or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, my Golden generation was Craig Bellamy, John Hartson, Robbie Savage and Ryan Giggs.[/QUOTE]

    So rauuuuuuuuuulllllllll are you a welsh spaniard , or a spanish welshman?
     
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  13. The Raging Oxter

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    And fortunately, or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, my Golden generation was Craig Bellamy, John Hartson, Robbie Savage and Ryan Giggs.[/QUOTE]

    So rauuuuuuuuuulllllllll are you a welsh spaniard , or a spanish welshman?[/QUOTE]

    Stupid prick can't even do quotes properly <doh>
     
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  14. Lucaaas

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    So rauuuuuuuuuulllllllll are you a welsh spaniard , or a spanish welshman?[/QUOTE]

    Stupid prick can't even do quotes properly <doh>[/QUOTE]

    Hypocrite <whistle>

    It's all gone to **** now.
     
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  15. THe Mighty Huth Rocks

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    So rauuuuuuuuuulllllllll are you a welsh spaniard , or a spanish welshman?[/QUOTE]

    Stupid prick can't even do quotes properly <doh>[/QUOTE]

    But you knew what i was on about
     
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  16. THe Mighty Huth Rocks

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    Raaaauuuullllllll

    Bellamy> thug
    Hartson> thug
    Savage> thug
    Giggs> Wife Cheater

    Seems to sum up what a so called person you are
     
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  17. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    Stop being so ridiculous, ffs!
     
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  18. THe Mighty Huth Rocks

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    So you can defend them 4, can you ?
     
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  19. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    Why would I be defending them?
     
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  20. THe Mighty Huth Rocks

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    So you want to bum 3 welsh thugs & 1 cheating, lying ****face snivelly tosspot.

    Nice Life.
     
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