Britain is a huge spender on pharmaceuticals do you think countrys are going to stop supplying ,same with automotive industry and the list goes on. The BBC are not respected like they were 50 years ago they are a clown off a organisation.
I fully realise that John, with all of the different viewpoints that are being expressed I put that up to show the agreed pathway, a sort of general purpose guide. We all agree £39billion is the agreed figure and we have about 40 years to pay it off, we are paying approx £1billion a month during this extension, it is of great interest to us all what figure Boris agree's to if he succeeds with a deal, I think he will stick to the £39billion figure or the remaining £36billion or so.
Maybe, maybe not, if we had to pay the £39bn anyway, then this is just part of that sum. If we negotiate a way out without paying any 'exit fees', then yes, she has cost the UK that amount, or more come Oct 31st....
this part has been already agreed.... we owe £39bn on the assumption we leave on March 31st 2019 .. we have not left yet! whilst we are still in we pay our payment [have done so for years] whilst we are paying that our MEPS get wages expenses and pension contributions … we also get the minimalistic "help" from Europe for "projects" like Wales and Scotland get a lot of help ...more than they actually contribute as does NI. BECAUSE THESE ARE / there are "AGREEMENTS" when we leave, we pay in toward the sum agreed pre 31/3/2019 [ circa £39bn] and these "contracts " get completed as part of "the deal" in the event of no deal it is exactly that NO DEAL.... "the deal, everything has/had been previously agreed on pre 03/2019" means it is not ratified [ its a no deal] so both sides have to reconsider their positions [bear in mind EU wanted a lot lot more than £39bn ] we will not get away without having to pay something.... you can look upon it from many angles we pay them [EU] or we fulfil the payments the EU would have made . Should Womble and Fishface get their way leave UK, HADRIANS WALL will once again be "manned" and Scotland will have to have their own border force! wont cost us much more, indeed probably less because we already contribute a vast sum to Scotland for border protection! I am 50/50 Scots more of my family live up there than down here so basically "duo nationality" ought to buy a croft then I COULD VOTE!
Go and tell that Office for Budget Responsibility that then. Clearly they've missed something that ****ing Caps Lock over here has spotted.
you only get to see what the biased BBC wants you to see. A very warm welcome at the hospital he visited outside, not the staged panto that was inside.
And you mustn't forget that extra billion she gave to the DUP when she failed to get the majority in the GE.
Not sure how accurate this is but I still found it pretty interesting, enough to share it anyway! For every £1 we put in to the EU, we get back 38p. It's the worse return amount out of all 28 EU countries! Compare that to Luxembourg. For every £1 they put into the EU, they get back £34.04, which seems fair to me!!! NOT!!!
We all know the UK is a net contributor to the EU, although I must admit I thought we were second behind Germany. It's not anything new to be fair! It's not all about money. It should also be noted that the actual amount we hand over to the EU, is absolutely ****ing tiny in the grand scheme of what we spend annually on everything. Like less than 1% tiny.
You can understand why the EU are desperate to keep us. The give the least amount back to us and why is that? Because we are one if the biggest economies in the EU. They want to use us to prop up all the others.
Ahh, so the EU need us more than we need them after all!!! With the threat of no deal from Boris and him not giving in to the remainers of parliament, the EU are worried now that they will lose us. All of a sudden, the EU now claim a deal can be done. Shame these pathetic <unts couldn't place nice before, within the last 3 years.
The mere fact that you think you can generate this outcome from that graph says everything. Let's put it this way. The EU is a population of 500 odd million people, and 6.2% of their GDP is going to be impacted by us leaving. The UK is a population of 60 odd million people, and 46-54% of our trade is going to be impacted by us leaving. The EU don't want us to leave because it's going to hurt them, of course it is. But it is going to hurt us an absolute ****ton more. I'm not sure how much more simply I can put it. If you read that and somehow think that the EU need us more, then you're genuinely shot away. It's not even a debate. It's not even close. Now to wait for someone to tell me I don't 'believe' enough, those numbers are warped, something from RR about the 'Brussels mafia', some Greek from JGF, and how it's all Project Fear despite it being in actually facking numbers in front of you...
Rob - this is a numbers game played by both sides and neither is an absolute perspective of what will actually happen on leaving the EU without a deal. The current percentage figures are what they are, but that doesn't necessarily prove anything post Brexit. The broad implication is that we will suffer more than the EU and that is a reasonable standpoint, but nobody actually wants to suffer anything, and that applies to the EU countries as well. In reality, many things will change over quite a short period of time and will eventually settle down after new agreements are reached in everybody's interests. The Union Jack flag waving wont achieve anything practical other than whip up nationalistic pride, but there's nothing really wrong with that. Likewise the profits of doom who can't see anything other than disaster ahead are dumbing this country down.
You know what OS, I couldn't agree more with your post. We're in exactly the same position here, particularly your middle paragraph. The problem is when people seem to equate 'the EU will suffer as well' with 'the EU needs us more than we need them'. The first is absolutely true. The second is absolutely not.
We all know we are going to suffer, there will be food shortages, restriction of medical supplies, fuel shortages and price increases, civil disturbances, transport disruption on our road and rail sevices, the planes will fall out of the sky because they have nowhere to land, the death rate will increase and we don't have enough body bags, hospitals and local medical centres will close because we don't have enough European doctors and nurses, the crime rate will soar because of a lack of police officers and no crime information being available from Europol, education will suffer, universities will close, Northern Ireland will return to chaos and all of the other things you have consistently brought to our attention over the last couple of years. Do you really believe life on earth will cease if we leave Europe, I don't, I think we will do well, we are only one country, one nation and as you have pointed out there are 27 of them, they will still trade with us, visit us and we will all still be members of a world order. Life will go on.
I tell you now Rob when we leave the EU within two years the EU will collapse. Why because Germany and Us have bankrolled it over the years. Germany will not subsidise the EU. It will fall. With regards to the UK we will still do business with EU country’s and they with us.
