I didnt actually say it. It was just a "light hearted" comment for a joke about copy and pasting. You "numpty" Please note, this is just banter based off previous comments
If these deals are set up already, that's better than leaving with no deal and having no deals done and just on WTO. How you or anyone can think this is bad news and not an actual positive, I dont know!!! Not all doom and gloom after all. So if we leave on a no deal, we got all these trade deals set up already and still the possibility to get many more deals done, the biggest deal being the EU deal but this is being ruined but remainers who want to disrupt everything so they can keep calling it bad and try to stop Brexit. I can already imagine some MP's say to others... "I know, lets make it look bad so people will want to change their minds". And we will still have WTO deals elsewhere. Not as bad as some experts previous claimed it would be. But wiz, have you thought about how upset these countries will be with us if we ended up remaining in the EU. Some of these countries will be pretty pissed off.
which of my 400 or so should I re read? ...physics today … the human animal .. psycology or alt spelling with a h.. of the human mind ...thinking fast and slow … or the cosmic machine... maybe closer to my heart ../ hobby... ground water science and engineering .. or one of my books dealing with karst especially the moine fault …...
a few years back an experiment was done regarding the weather forcasting there were 3 experts met office etc etc etc and a number of people that had sea weed or other such thing and 2 or 3 " picked off the street and asked if they would like to partake … they just guessed! red sky etc none of the experts made the top 4 … winner was a man in the street … his forcasts were it was nice when I WENT TO BED and been sunny all day so likely same tomorrow.. he was about 70% correct seaweed was 3rd this was just over 50% expert weather BBC forcasts was 5th just under 50% and another came 9th[ cant remember them all just these ones ] just goes to show the man in the street makes up his own mind and gets it right enough times! Experts often get bogged down in their own logic! AS has always been stated it is the worst case scenario … when you do something say dangerous you should always have a back up plan .."1000ft up a bluff on a 2000ft climb … weather changes what is the worst case scenario and am I PREPARED FOR IT! " its called COMMON SENSE …... A no brainer ........... democracy
Here goes... These experts that you are talking about, probably have their own agendas for wanting to remain. There is a good reason for agreeing on doom and gloom. Also, look at these same experts previous history on their predictions. Remember they all wanted to join the Euro and lose the Pound??? Experts my ass. If yours is based on these so called experts predictions, that doesn't make your more valid. Not sure how they can be called experts as they get more big stuff wrong than not. Keep believing them if you like. Law of averages tells us they will get it right once sooner or later. I prefer to genuinely look at the so called experts that remainers quote from and see their history and then make my own decision. Believing these experts is no different than believing the press. They all have their own agendas. Wasnt just one though was it? There were many. In fact there were "waves" of them all having predictions on unemployment will rise, car manufacturing will reduce, UK economy will be ruined, Don't forget wanting to have the Euro instead of the Pound. Need I go on?? Instead, in 2017, a year after the referendum result, British car manufacturing was at a 17 year high. Unemployment at a 11 year low, the UK economy grew more than any other G7 country. Since these stats, things have improved further in the last 2 years. Some things may have got worse as well, but that ain't any surprise when there is so much infighting in parliament, which grows concerns on the economy. If parliament actually did what they all voted for, which was implement the referendum decision, that uncertainty wouldn't have appeared. Here is a better fact for you. Its better because its an actual fact. Yours is not a fact. That is just some made up BS. Not saying its from you but its made up from someone. I and no one I actually know, was asked this question, so how they can say less than 5% of the population never considered our membership an issue with the EU. They probably just asked 100 people and 96 said no. All could have been remainers. The point is, not all the population was asked so to make it a fact, that is wrong. Now breathe CJS
And Cameron then said about that in out referendum that after that vote, they will implement the decision and that there will be no new negotiations with the EU. There will be no new referendum.
CJS WE ARE FALLING INTO THE TRAP... we should ignore most of the comments from BCFC he is like a pirhanna needs people to keep answering him because his survival depends on it … you notice after a while key phraseology and his adept way of contradiction when he cant fathom a answer gets a little bit "strained"
You're not believing the media are you?? After what you say about us apparently believing them? Have you asked all 17.4 million leave voters to make the claim "most leavers actually would like to stay in the common market"? And the referendum was clear that if we vote leave, we are voting to leave the customs union and single market.
The referendum in 1975 was for something completely different to what is in place today. The result back in 1975 may have been different if it was like it is today. I think that is what Red Robin is referring too
Yes it was a vote for the public to join but what they were joining is completely different to what it is today. Back then, it was trade and security. Since then, the EU has become more than just trade and security, which I am sure you understand and what its become is not what 17.4 million people wanted in a public vote for people to remain or leave in 2016.
When did Boris lie to the Queen? Genuine question. If you have any proof of this, please share it. Not just with us on here, but I think the SNP lawyers, Gina Miler/John Major lawyers will want to see it too, to help their case in the supreme court as they need all the help they can get Also as a side note, as already pointed out by wiz above, there are a lot of other press outlets that are trying to influence people on the other side. I wonder if these papers will report next week their wrong doing in a small box on page 30 saying they were wrong accusing Boris of lying.
To be honest jgf, I like having a debate with Rob. It's nice because everyone I know away from this place cant stand discussing the topic as they are so fed up with it all. This thread is the only place I can release my "strains" Maybe Rob knows this and is assisting me with my release He makes good points but I just wished he replied to my replies and not just be selective because I have, in my opinion, countered his arguments and he then ignores them, maybe unintentionally of course. I just don't like the insults as not needed and just doesn't help when the topic is heated anyway. I just don't see the reason to ruin the good debate with name calling. We are all better than that, surely? Even you lot being reds are better than that!
There is so many people to blame here. Could even blame the PM and his current crop of ministers. If they voted for May's deal the 1st or 2nd time, we could have left already. Crap deal mind but point still stands. I blame Cameron too for quitting straight after the referendum. He knew he fukked up. Getting May in as PM was a mistake as she was a remainer. A brexiteer was needed from the start so they could implement what they were claiming during the referendum. If it then went tits up then there could be more support for remain now. But a remainer being PM and then delaying for 3 years with a crap deal, did she really want to leave the EU? I have my suspicions. Then blame Corbyn. Yeah but no but yeah but no but yeah but no with regards to what side he is on and what Labours stance is. I blame pretty much all politicians. They voted to let the public decide. They voted to start article 50. They all came out saying they will implement the result. Then at the GE, most parties said on their manifesto that they will still implement the result. Then you have those who left their party and formed a new party but refuse a bi election for their seat because they know they will lose. There has been sooooooo much lies and sooooooo much hypocrisy its unreal. Parliament is an embarrassment and whatever happens in the future - remain or leave - democracy is dead and parliament needs to be different, to gain the trust of the people. Otherwise, they are all dictators. Too many dictators in parliament will cause issues and here we are today. And I also blame remoaners. Not all. Some have accepted the result and believe in democracy. But those who are willing to protest again and again and again to stop the result being implement are also the issue. You lost guys. If you had won, I doubt there would be any protests at all. There certainly won't be talks for further referendums etc. You lost guys. Get over it and move on and try and help build this country back up again.
We have a court in England who rejected the case that parliaments suspension was unlawful. Its going straight to the supreme court to be heard next Tuesday. We have a court in Scotland who rejected the case that parliaments suspension was unlawful. That decision was appealed and they won their appeal at Scotlands highest civil court. The government have appealed against this. Its now heading to the supreme court. We have a court in Northern Ireland who rejected the case that parliaments suspension was unlawful and rejected the case that it would have a negative effect on the peace process and endanger the Good Friday Agreement. This case will be appealed too. Win or lose that appeal, it looks like it will still end up at the supreme court as well. Will all 3 be heard at the same time, one combined case, or all 3 to be heard individually?
This is pretty interesting. The top 40 Brexit troublemakers. This is for both sides of the argument by the way. Just click on their face and read more to see why they are deemed a troublemaker on Brexit. https://www.politico.eu/list/brexit-40-troublemakers-ranking/
