Off Topic BREXIT

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How will you be voting?

  • Remain

    Votes: 89 46.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 104 53.9%

  • Total voters
    193
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So this was just one big life lesson for you OAPs to give us young ones? Or you're just trying to justify a selfish dick move that has put up the next generations future up in the air?
I think it will give the country an opportunity to thrive. When I went self employed some people were horrified that I would be giving up the certainty of a regular wage for the risk of getting enough clients wanting to pay me to do work for them. I've never looked back and I've never been happier. Standing on your own two feet is very liberating rather than being told what to do, whether by employers, or the EU.
 
I think it will give the country an opportunity to thrive. When I went self employed some people were horrified that I would be giving up the certainty of a regular wage for the risk of getting enough clients wanting to pay me to do work for them. I've never looked back and I've never been happier. Standing on your own two feet is very liberating rather than being told what to do, whether by employers, or the EU.

i've already worked out of europe, but what i want is comfortable trades and work between europe and me.
 
Johnson and Gove are both very intelligent.

Well I give you that Johnson may have fooled a large section of the uk public that he is a harmless joke. A clever deception I suppose.

I don't see how either are any better than the rest of them though. Just more posh boys with a privileged education. Which only rarely coincides with intelligence in my experience.
 
I dont think the UK or the EU would want no opportunities for suitable people to work in different countries.

yes but johnson as pm

i honestly couldn't bare to live in a country where boris johnson is the prime minister . it sickens me
 
Well I give you that Johnson may have fooled a large section of the uk public that he is a harmless joke. A clever deception I suppose.

I don't see how either are any better than the rest of them though. Just more posh boys with a privileged education. Which only rarely coincides with intelligence in my experience.
Boris Johnson won scholarships to study at Eton and Oxford.
Michael Gove was adopted at four months old and went to a state school until he wont a scholarship to an independent school.
They both go 2:1s from Oxford
Winning these kinds of scholarships and degrees is not usually a sign of lack of intelligence.
 
More meaningless waffle. It didn't go your way. Deal with it.

I would have thought that a superior intellect that supported Remain could have spelt condescension.
Wereyou were getting it confused with condensation?

If you're going to call someone out on their grammar because you have absolutely no retort, you might want to use double check your own.
 
The bad news is, that in 4 years time the EU would have commenced operation implode.. UK whilst being the first will almost certainly not be the last, we simply made lesser countries realise that there is life outside it. We took a significant amount of revenue out of the EU today and other member states with a lower performing economy will not be enjoying having to make up the short fall.. Whats done has been a democratic vote for whatever reasons people choices you have no right to castigate anyones reasoning. What has been appalling today is the manner in which rich boys and girls in London and seemingly on here have not taken the defeat like adults. Instead they bleated as if it was their divine right to have won the vote. I think had the roles been reversed those in the exit camp would have just got on with it, something that everyone in this country should do now.

You do realise why that is ? (Why am I even asking, clearly you don't)

Leaving will have a much bigger impact on remain voters than staying would ever have had on Brexiteers .
If anything life would have been the same if we stayed and slightly improved with calls for EU reforms (and a bargaining chip for Cameron)

Instead, Brexiteers have ****ed up the life of quite a few people who perhaps depended on the EU in one way or another. For what? Just to be able to have a go at the establishment . What happened to walking down the street naked? Instead you opted for ****ing over your kids' generation and giving xenophobia around Europe a victory.

well done
 
Fast forward 5 years in EU Jockland, the Albanians are eating all the swans, grouse, stags, they've had to build several new Cumbernaulds and Livingstons in the Highlands near Inverness to accommodate the influx. House prices have rocketed, Scots kids' schooling has been problematic due to having a load of Bulgarians in all the classes. Polski sklep shops opening up in Oban alongside the tartan tweed and cashmere shops. That unique Scottish ambience that their tourism thrives on......gone, it looks like everywhere else in Europe. Turkish barbers everywhere undercutting the existing ones.
Now.....about that Remain Vote.....
I guess you've only been on Holiday to Blackpool then.
 
Curiosity got the better of me and I have to ask...

Why would a far left, lapsed communist go to SA in 1966? Just a year after the setting up of the boycott movement?

Went on a 2 year contract to work for a giant South African company jointly owned 50% by Anglo American and ICI . Huge career opportunity in my industry(Plastics) and a chance to see other countries in Africa. Met my wife of now 48 years there. She is a member of the Australian Labor Party.
 
So this was just one big life lesson for you OAPs to give us young ones? Or you're just trying to justify a selfish dick move that has put up the next generations future up in the air?

Please don't blame us all.

Even before this fiasco I was already ashamed of the legacy my generation was leaving for my own children and grandchildren.

My parents and granddads generations fought hard and made many sacrifices to make the gains my generation benefited from. But it has all been thrown away in the past 30 years.

All I can say is that many of us have resisted and fought back but the global rise of neoliberal capitalism had all the advantages and has increased it's stranglehold by buying many off and crushing many others.

All is not lost though. The inevitable chaos which will arise from the installation of these far right loons will offer plenty of opportunities. It's going to be a painful and probably bloody fight but it could be turned into a blessing in disguise.

Not much consolation to our youngsters right now but this could just be the kick up the are the UK working class needed to again mobilise and overturn this tide of mass exploitation and abuse for ever.

While there is little doubt that racism and good old blighty imperialistic nostalgia had a large part to play in this surrender to the right, I don't believe it was the biggest factor for many of the votes.

It was also a mass protest against the increasing neglect of the needs and desires of ordinary people by the establishments political mouthpieces. It will soon become apparent that their needs and desires will no more be addressed by the new order any more than it was by the old.

Hopefully the rejection of such state abuse of it's own people and the awareness of their own power will not just dissipate and will be the springboard to real change and new demands for social justice.

In the meantime, I can only apologise for the lack of opportunities and the depressing state of our current society which we have left you as your legacy. Some of us have fought extremely hard, but yes we have failed our youth. Sorry.

But the fight will go on.
 
You gave the impression that you would live in another country if Boris Johnson became Prime Minister. I thought that was an extreme reaction but I respect your decision. Have you changed your mind?

no, i would love to live in another european country but that has absolutely nothing to do with boris as pm

boris as a pm is a disaster and it's my only regret voting leave

because cameron is my most favourite pm of my lifetime
 
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