Brendan Rodgers

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the ex roofer said:
Again , people jumping to conclusions within a short time frame on managers and players .
Tell you what , let's wait it out and see .
I'm not asking people to show any loyalty to our 9 game in charge manager ( 4 wins ) or the previous manager ( Curtis ) who took us out of our nightmare since Christmas , just don't show disloyalty , you can keep your loyalty till next time but if you sh:t on these two guys , I'm going to sh:t right back at you .
It's like booers , if you can't be supportive don' t cheer by all means , just sit and say nothing .
If you can't show loyalty to a current manager , just sit and enjoy the points ...quietly
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Roof - Guido is Head Coach until the end of the season - then the position will be reviewed.

http://www.swanseacity.net/news/article/francesco-guidolin-signs-on-as-swans-head-coach-2908933.aspx

Same as was the case with Monk.

I didn't want Monk appointed permanently as I thought there was better out there (Koeman)

Similarly, I believe there are better out there this time around - from a PL Management perspective.
 
We need to get back to what we as a smallish club in a big league have done so successfully in the past but have now lost our way and that needs getting shot of Guildo and all the players that have not been the correct style of player and replace them with a manager suited by our style and players capable of playing our style. The sooner we do that the quicker the club will get back to what we do best and are known for........Brendan is the manager to do that imo..
 
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So Rodgers would have preferred Chelsea but we're 2nd on his list? Come on. De Boer's comments indicate that he really wants to come here, whereas Brendan is only coming because his dream job didn't materialise. Don't blame Rodgers one bit for wanting Chelsea before us but it's not the best start is it?

As for Allen, he's not a poor player but my best mate is a Liverpool fan and won't be sorry to see him go. That should speak volumes. I really don't think he's better than what we have, though I can see the logic in phasing Britton out for Allen to step in due to his advancing years. Big shoes to fill if you'll excuse the pun, especially as Leon has been fantastic for us recently.

As for Roof's assertion that it's a "knee-jerk" reaction to get rid of Guidolin.....not so. TLF is spot on. He was hired on a short contract to get us out of the **** and he was unlikely to be a long term option as he always had one eye on the Italy job. Guidolin will hopefully get the job done but his teams clearly play uninspiring football and grind out 1 nils (if they are lucky as we've been). Great if you're in the crap, not so great week in week out.

If it's Rodgers it'll be a huge improvement. If it's De Boer we could really go places.
 
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Kifflom! said:
So Rodgers would have preferred Chelsea but we're 2nd on his list? Come on. De Boer's comments indicate that he really wants to come here, whereas Brendan is only coming because his dream job didn't materialise. Don't blame Rodgers one bit for wanting Chelsea before us but it's not the best start is it?

As for Allen, he's not a poor player but my best mate is a Liverpool fan and won't be sorry to see him go. That should speak volumes. I really don't think he's better than what we have, though I can see the logic in phasing Britton out for Allen to step in due to his advancing years. Big shoes to fill if you'll excuse the pun, especially as Leon has been fantastic for us recently.

As for Roof's assertion that it's a "knee-jerk" reaction to get rid of Guidolin.....not so. TLF is spot on. He was hired on a short contract to get us out of the **** and he was unlikely to be a long term option as he always had one eye on the Italy job. Guidolin will hopefully get the job done but his teams clearly play uninspiring football and grind out 1 nils (if they are lucky as we've been). Great if you're in the crap, not so great week in week out.

If it's Rodgers it'll be a huge improvement. If it's De Boer we could really go places.
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Wasn't De boer linked to us in January and did I see somewhere that he wouldn't come till the end of the season, cant remember the reason, was it the fear of relegation.

No it wasn't I did find this, Go and paint a pretty picture Jenkins.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/swansea-manager-candidate-frank-de-7099610
 
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Kifflom! said:
So Rodgers would have preferred Chelsea but we're 2nd on his list? Come on. De Boer's comments indicate that he really wants to come here, whereas Brendan is only coming because his dream job didn't materialise. Don't blame Rodgers one bit for wanting Chelsea before us but it's not the best start is it?

As for Allen, he's not a poor player but my best mate is a Liverpool fan and won't be sorry to see him go. That should speak volumes. I really don't think he's better than what we have, though I can see the logic in phasing Britton out for Allen to step in due to his advancing years. Big shoes to fill if you'll excuse the pun, especially as Leon has been fantastic for us recently.

As for Roof's assertion that it's a "knee-jerk" reaction to get rid of Guidolin.....not so. TLF is spot on. He was hired on a short contract to get us out of the **** and he was unlikely to be a long term option as he always had one eye on the Italy job. Guidolin will hopefully get the job done but his teams clearly play uninspiring football and grind out 1 nils (if they are lucky as we've been). Great if you're in the crap, not so great week in week out.

If it's Rodgers it'll be a huge improvement. If it's De Boer we could really go places.
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But I'd much rather have Rodgers re laying the foundations as it were then a De Boer taking over in a few years time.
Let's remember, De Bier hasn't managed over here and is a risk that we cannot afford to make next season. Rodgers for me is a low risk, sensible option to get us back on the right track.
 
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ValleyGraduate12 said:
But I'd much rather have Rodgers re laying the foundations as it were then a De Boer taking over in a few years time.
Let's remember, De Bier hasn't managed over here and is a risk that we cannot afford to make next season. Rodgers for me is a low risk, sensible option to get us back on the right track.
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Koeman hadn't managed over here before joining Southampton - he's not done too badly!<cheers>
 
Rodgers wouldn't be a bad appointment but the Swans have always taken a chance with Managers - either appointing relative unknowns (Rodgers) inexperienced guys (Monk) or big names that nobody saw coming (Laudrup). De Boer fits that bill for me and unlike Rodgers really wants to "do something beautiful" with a new club in the PL. Let's be honest, it's a retrograde step for Rodgers.

De Boer is a much more inspiring appointment for me.
 
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ValleyGraduate12 said:
But they were not in the mess we are in now. We cannot afford another season like this. At least we know this season won't be repeated under Rodgers.
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Valley I am not so sure, they had a tidy season but didn't they lose about 6 or 7 players and at the start of the season were one of the favourites to go down, But to be fair Koeman turned it around immediately.


truth is I wouldn't be disappointed with either, I think both fit us perfectly and would welcome either.
 
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ValleyGraduate12 said:
But they were not in the mess we are in now. We cannot afford another season like this. At least we know this season won't be repeated under Rodgers.
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I understand completely what you are concerned about, however, a Management team of De Boer & Bergkamp fills me with more confidence & excitement than a Management team of Rodgers & Hammerstein, no no Rodgers & Pascoe! <cheers>
 
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Agree with all points on De Boer. I too would love to see him and Berkamp here, but I'd much rather see a De Boer take over a Swansea City already playing the Swansea Way in the future.
 
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Let's not forget that Rodgers was sacked from Liverpool, and with good reason. Poor signings with players on daft wages and an intransigent subbornness coupled with other managers' ability to see right through his tactics. If he hasn't learned from that we'll quickly be back to square one.

De Boer doesn't have that baggage.
 
Kifflom! said:
Let's not forget that Rodgers was sacked from Liverpool, and with good reason. Poor signings with players on daft wages and an intransigent subbornness coupled with other managers' ability to see right through his tactics. If he hasn't learned from that we'll quickly be back to square one.

De Boer doesn't have that baggage.
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With regards to Liverpool, they sold Sterling and Suarez and BR also list Sturridge to injury and Gerrard left too. That's Liverpool's 4 best players gone or injured along with their pace and goals.
As for the signings, let's not forget, the committee decided on transfers and wouldn't sanction moves for Gylfi, Ash, Vorm or Bony when Rodgers was in charge and publicly courted them.

Imo, if Surridge was fit this season, Rodgers would still be there.
 
So he had no say? I confess my ignorance on the way Liverpool do business but he had no voice? Why did Allen go then? Why is it that Liverpool fans criticise him for his signings?
 
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Kifflom! said:
So he had no say? I confess my ignorance on the way Liverpool do business but he had no voice? Why did Allen go then? Why is it that Liverpool fans criticise him for his signings?
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Again, according to what I've read on the Liverpool board, Joe was a done deal under Dagleish before BR took over. Is that true? I have no idea.
Rodgers wanted Ash, they bought Lovren. He wanted Gylfi, they bought Lallana. He wanted Bony, they bought Ings, Origi and Benteke. He wanted Vorm, they stuck with Mingiolet.
He had a say on transfers, but not as much a say some might think in my opinion.
 
Rodgers will never manage a big club again , he was lucky to have a player like Suarez around to prop up his credentials .
If Rodgers manages us again I will support him , until then I hope he looks elsewhere for a job and doesn't return .
Maybe Reading will take him back .
 
ValleyGraduate12 said:
Again, according to what I've read on the Liverpool board, Joe was a done deal under Dagleish before BR took over. Is that true? I have no idea.
Rodgers wanted Ash, they bought Lovren. He wanted Gylfi, they bought Lallana. He wanted Bony, they bought Ings, Origi and Benteke. He wanted Vorm, they stuck with Mingiolet.
He had a say on transfers, but not as much a say some might think in my opinion.
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Rodgers wanted everyone with a Swans shirt on .
Chances are Allen was a Rodgers choice , makes little sense in any other scenario .
Allen was not and never will be worth 15 million IMO .
Allen , a15 million transfer out
Bony 11 million transfer in
Bit of a laugh really .
 
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