Paul was talking of fighting Froch. He'll have a rethink if he's any sense when he reviews his piss poor showing against a much lesser fighter.
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Paul was talking of fighting Froch. He'll have a rethink if he's any sense when he reviews his piss poor showing against a much lesser fighter.
See one ref had to pretend it was close for the rematch PPV sales
To be honest, I was wondering how he'd fair against the women boxers. They've really impressed me in the fights I've seen. I suspect his swings may just be a bit too much for them, but they'd box him to bits.
To be honest, I was wondering how he'd fair against the women boxers. They've really impressed me in the fights I've seen. I suspect his swings may just be a bit too much for them, but they'd box him to bits.
He needs to fight one of the ones that were on last night!
I completely agree some of the women's fights are amazing.
Fury has to make a big statement in the rematch. This time he can excuse himself for nerves. Next time he has to deliver the goods. Taking the safe win is fine at an elite level, doing it against nobodies makes you a nobody.
To be honest, I was wondering how he'd fair against the women boxers. They've really impressed me in the fights I've seen. I suspect his swings may just be a bit too much for them, but they'd box him to bits.
I only have seen the highlights so can't really comment on the fight, but I think power/strength, not technique, will always be the factor which will stop women being able to challenge men in boxing, and in most sports. An elite woman can't generate the same level of power anywhere near that of an equivalent weight man.
Hence why transexuals could dominate the majority of women's sports.
To be honest, I was wondering how he'd fair against the women boxers. They've really impressed me in the fights I've seen. I suspect his swings may just be a bit too much for them, but they'd box him to bits.
Technically probably, but as you perhaps imply, women can't generate anywhere near the power output to compete on equal terms. Hence why transexuals could probably dominate most of women's sports.
A club standard power lifter can deadlift more than the global women's world record. I imagine the difference in striking force is replicated. Unfortunately wishful thinking can't compete with genetic and biological factors.
Tyson Fury unification fight with Oleksandr Usyk off as negotiations end
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Tyson Fury’s world heavyweight title unification fight with Oleksandr Usyk is off after it emerged talks between the camps of the rival champions had broken down completely. Anthony Joshua, who lost his IBF, WBA and WBO belts to Usyk, and was defeated again by the Ukrainian in a rematch last summer, said the failure to make the bout was “crazy”.
Joshua also suggested that Fury’s unpredictable demands were to blame for the disappointing collapse of a contest that had promised to give boxing its first undisputed world heavyweight champion since Lennox Lewis in 1999 – when Lennox Lewis held the four major titles at the same time.
“Look at all the **** they are going through now with Usyk,” Joshua said as he reflected on the enduring chaos of the heavyweight division. “It’s just crazy. I don’t publicise things so it’s actually good that people are starting to see what goes on in negotiations. It’s good that they can actually see the **** that [boxers such as Usyk] have got to put up with to make a fight. Me and Usyk got two successful fights done.”
The British heavyweight, who makes his comeback a week on Saturday against Jermaine Franklin, endured a similar breakdown of two planned bouts with Fury in 2021 and again late last year. “As much as I like to entertain that gossip about the Fury situation,” Joshua said, “I have been there twice before and people don’t remember that. I was supposed to fight him before I fought Usyk the first time [in September 2021] and he pulled out due to his legal case, the court arbitration with Deontay Wilder [whom Fury then beat in their rematch that October]. Then we had the second [planned fight between Joshua and Fury] last December.”
Negotiations for that proposed bout soon evaporated amid mutual acrimony that predates the strife that has so infuriated the Usyk camp. Egis Klimas, who manages Usyk, stressed that Fury’s constant and changing demands over the past two months have made negotiations impossible. “No matter how much Usyk compromised, he was pushed for more,” Klimas said.
The unification bout had been scheduled to take place at Wembley Stadium on 29 April with Fury defending his WBC title while trying to win the three belts held by Usyk. The Ukrainian had sought a 50-50 split of the highly lucrative purse but Fury rejected this claim on social media last month.
Oleksandr Usyk celebrates after beating Britain’s Anthony Joshua in Saudi Arabia in August 2022.Photograph: Hassan Ammar/AP
“They want 50%, Usyk, and [saying] ‘Tyson is being greedy,’” Fury complained on an Instagram video. “From where I’m standing, Usyk, you and your team are worth 30%. You either take it or you leave it. And if you don’t want it, go fight Daniel Dubois at the Copper Box [Arena in London] and get a few million dollars. If you want to make some real money, come and fight The Gypsy King. Sign the contract, get your money and get ****ed up.”
Usyk, to the surprise of many, accepted the reduced offer that same day. On another Instagram video, Usyk spoke directly to Fury: “Hey greedy belly, I accept your offer. 70/30 split to fight on April 29 at Wembley. But you will promise to donate £1m to Ukraine immediately after the fight. And for every day of your delay, you will pay 1% from your purse to [the] Ukrainian people. Deal?”
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It seemed as if a deal had been struck, only for Fury to then insist that he would not agree to any rematch clause being added to the contract. Usyk said he was still ready to fight Fury and, again for a fleeting few days, it seemed as if the bout could be salvaged. But a final impasse this week meant that negotiations came to a shuddering halt and, on Wednesday, it was confirmed that both parties had walked away to make new plans for separate fights against different heavyweight contenders.
Asked if he expects to eventually face Fury in the ring, possibly even later this year, a resigned Joshua said: “I cannot say I am just going to sit around and wait for this geezer. There are other great fights out there I can have. Without Fury on my record I will not wake up tomorrow and regret my whole boxing career. If he is on it, I am on it, if he is not, he is not. Whatever.”
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Tyson Fury’s world heavyweight title unification fight with Oleksandr Usyk is off after it emerged talks between the camps of the rival champions had broken down completely. Anthony Joshua, who lost his IBF, WBA and WBO belts to Usyk, and was defeated again by the Ukrainian in a rematch last summer, said the failure to make the bout was “crazy”.
Joshua also suggested that Fury’s unpredictable demands were to blame for the disappointing collapse of a contest that had promised to give boxing its first undisputed world heavyweight champion since Lennox Lewis in 1999 – when Lennox Lewis held the four major titles at the same time.
“Look at all the **** they are going through now with Usyk,” Joshua said as he reflected on the enduring chaos of the heavyweight division. “It’s just crazy. I don’t publicise things so it’s actually good that people are starting to see what goes on in negotiations. It’s good that they can actually see the **** that [boxers such as Usyk] have got to put up with to make a fight. Me and Usyk got two successful fights done.”
The British heavyweight, who makes his comeback a week on Saturday against Jermaine Franklin, endured a similar breakdown of two planned bouts with Fury in 2021 and again late last year. “As much as I like to entertain that gossip about the Fury situation,” Joshua said, “I have been there twice before and people don’t remember that. I was supposed to fight him before I fought Usyk the first time [in September 2021] and he pulled out due to his legal case, the court arbitration with Deontay Wilder [whom Fury then beat in their rematch that October]. Then we had the second [planned fight between Joshua and Fury] last December.”
Negotiations for that proposed bout soon evaporated amid mutual acrimony that predates the strife that has so infuriated the Usyk camp. Egis Klimas, who manages Usyk, stressed that Fury’s constant and changing demands over the past two months have made negotiations impossible. “No matter how much Usyk compromised, he was pushed for more,” Klimas said.
The unification bout had been scheduled to take place at Wembley Stadium on 29 April with Fury defending his WBC title while trying to win the three belts held by Usyk. The Ukrainian had sought a 50-50 split of the highly lucrative purse but Fury rejected this claim on social media last month.
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Oleksandr Usyk celebrates after beating Britain’s Anthony Joshua in Saudi Arabia in August 2022.Photograph: Hassan Ammar/AP
“They want 50%, Usyk, and [saying] ‘Tyson is being greedy,’” Fury complained on an Instagram video. “From where I’m standing, Usyk, you and your team are worth 30%. You either take it or you leave it. And if you don’t want it, go fight Daniel Dubois at the Copper Box [Arena in London] and get a few million dollars. If you want to make some real money, come and fight The Gypsy King. Sign the contract, get your money and get ****ed up.”
Usyk, to the surprise of many, accepted the reduced offer that same day. On another Instagram video, Usyk spoke directly to Fury: “Hey greedy belly, I accept your offer. 70/30 split to fight on April 29 at Wembley. But you will promise to donate £1m to Ukraine immediately after the fight. And for every day of your delay, you will pay 1% from your purse to [the] Ukrainian people. Deal?”
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It seemed as if a deal had been struck, only for Fury to then insist that he would not agree to any rematch clause being added to the contract. Usyk said he was still ready to fight Fury and, again for a fleeting few days, it seemed as if the bout could be salvaged. But a final impasse this week meant that negotiations came to a shuddering halt and, on Wednesday, it was confirmed that both parties had walked away to make new plans for separate fights against different heavyweight contenders.
Asked if he expects to eventually face Fury in the ring, possibly even later this year, a resigned Joshua said: “I cannot say I am just going to sit around and wait for this geezer. There are other great fights out there I can have. Without Fury on my record I will not wake up tomorrow and regret my whole boxing career. If he is on it, I am on it, if he is not, he is not. Whatever.”
Never had a big fight against someone at the top. An ancient Klitschko and a big dosser Wilder who got found out the first time he fought anyone with a bit of skill who wasn’t literally a punchbag.
Worst heavyweight champion ever.
Worst heavyweight champion ever.
Certainly not the greatest or part of a golden era, but no where near the worst. There's been loads of worse boxers who have been in the right place at the right time to get a belt... Remember Valuev in the mid-2000s? Tommy Morrison in the 80s? Ruiz...Joshua.. plenty worse technical boxers.
How many of them were greedy bellies who purposefully ducked all the meaningful fights?
His record is piss poor if people are honest. He's ( up to now ) been the king of self promotion and getting people to buy into his pantomime. But I think people are finally starting to see the real Luke Fury.
Well done to these young ladies. Female boxing is on the rise, and there's been some cracking contests, held with a lot of respect to each other by all involved, so maybe these girls can be a part of that and act as role models to an even wider audience.
Full credit to Tommy Coyle too, who is doing so much for this City and the region in general.
Two girls from the Orchard Park estate have blown away their community after becoming national junior boxing champions.
Best friends Elisha Cole and Josey Newton, both 14, have been attending Tommy Coyle's boxing gym for the last couple of years. The club was set up by Tommy to give kids, particularly from Hull's estates, a chance to get into sport and off the streets at no cost to them.
The England Boxing National Junior Championships took place in Wigan last weekend, where girls and boys from across the country fought for a gold medal. Josey was the first of the Hull girls to become champion in her respective weight category, and then with the pressure to match her friend on her shoulders, Elisha also snagged gold.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/new...news/orchard-park-girls-become-boxing-8315041
Full credit to Tommy Coyle too, who is doing so much for this City and the region in general.
Two girls from the Orchard Park estate have blown away their community after becoming national junior boxing champions.
Best friends Elisha Cole and Josey Newton, both 14, have been attending Tommy Coyle's boxing gym for the last couple of years. The club was set up by Tommy to give kids, particularly from Hull's estates, a chance to get into sport and off the streets at no cost to them.
The England Boxing National Junior Championships took place in Wigan last weekend, where girls and boys from across the country fought for a gold medal. Josey was the first of the Hull girls to become champion in her respective weight category, and then with the pressure to match her friend on her shoulders, Elisha also snagged gold.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/new...news/orchard-park-girls-become-boxing-8315041
Davis v Garcia this Saturday
I might be jinxing it but this should be fight of the year
Two brilliant boxers
I might be jinxing it but this should be fight of the year
Two brilliant boxers
Davis. Just looked he’s firm favourite with the bookies. Garcia is like lightning but don’t think he’s had a proper war.
what about you?