Disagree about Leon. It's far more important that he's firing on all cylinders next week v Villa. It was correct to rest him today.
Why's Taylor getting bagged? he didn't cost us any of the goals and hasn't, as far as I can remember, all season. We all know he's not good in attack, where he's slow to react, but in defense he's better than Rangel who no one seems to have a go at even when he blatantly deserves it. . The goals yet again came from our own mistakes. Fabianski and Rangel for the first, Fabianski the second and from a joint effort from our sieve of a defense, but mainly from Rangel missing a simple interception then turning his back on the corner and stroll back into the box. I thought Fabianski was going to deck him after the goal. Other bad, Paloachi looked out of his depth and had zero impact on the game, imo was as poor as Gomis has been of late. Good points, Barrow's looking good, we scored two good goals and for the most part looked like the team most likely. I also thought Gomis was excellent for once and it was good to see Emnes get some game time and of course our 100% Siggy. It happened, we lost, bring on Villa.
Even if it was Messi , he would look out of his depth with what the team is offering a striker at this time . Taylor offered very little positive play these days , even his defensive play is slipping a bit . I hate that feeling I have these days for the entire minute or so from the second we give up a corner or attacking free kick to the second it's over . The fear is overwhelming while the expectation of giving up a goal is almost a given ....within the feeling . Thank god we have won a few of late , that maybe we shouldn't have . I have full confidence we will play in the Premier next season . If we are to survive next season , we will need changes to the way we play . We need to start implementing those changes now to prepare . One thing we really need is a clone of Britton built , a holding midfielder who never says " I'll let that dangerous play go and the defence will deal with it " . His will to help and his commitment to the defence is unowned by any other Swans player and is the single most important job to the way we play . Keep in mind the manner in which Monk , Jenkins and the club dropped this mess on Curtis and then Guido . Guido's been in charge 6 or 7 games and he was sick for half of them . Same as Paloschi , until we own some sort of team attack don't expect much from the main attacker . Full confidence in Guido , Curtis and Paloschi come next August when the new team is built and time isn't of the essence
,Paloachi looked out of his depth because he had zero and I mean zero service , chasing a lost cause but showed a wiliness to try and make an impact .he must be wondering what has he got himself into .Taylor deserves criticism because he was poor both defensively and going forward ,he has very little understanding of what a modern day full back should be able to offer and he offers very little .Ash was covering his position for most of the game and as an attacking threat very little .
"Why's Taylor getting bagged? he didn't cost us any of the goals and hasn't, as far as I can remember, all season." You MUST be watching a different player.
Paloachi - ran all day yes, but ran no where. He got no ball because he rarely, if at all, managed to get himself free. The odd ball that did go his way found him arse side of the defender who easily intercepted the ball. He was poor on Saturday, even Gomis outshone him. Taylor - I'm sure he does have a good understanding of what a modern day full back is but we all know he simply lacks the ability. He has no pace, no tricks, no cross and an even worse shot and in attack produces just about the same as Rangel who can't cross for **** either. So I agree, in attack, Taylor's no good, in defense though he is better than Rangel and I think if you look again you'll see Fernandez and Williams busting over to cover him because he is so slow getting back into position after a sortie up field. Taylor, even with his lack of speed, seems to be able to do this often blocking crosses from going into the box. Not questioning that he's useless in attack but just think he gets bagged when others deserve to and cost us goals and points when he hasn't. To me Taylor's an old school full-back being asked to play, quoting Matt, a modern day full back role he simply doesn't have the ability for. In defensive though I can't remember him costing us any goals or points that can be attributed directly to his mistakes, unlike Rangel. I've not seen all the games this season though Kiff so enlighten me buddy What I'd like to see is Naughton right, Kingley left and bring Raheem Hanley from the u21's. I'm sure we signed him as a hot prospect left back who's comfortable on the right too.
"I've not seen all the games this season though Kiff so enlighten me buddy" Ain't got the space or time Don't disagree with your assessment though as to who we play.
Agree with you Stumpy about the fullbacks although I still think Rangel has a role to play this season off the bench until we are safe.
Alright. No prob. I guess every single other poster must have been watching a different player to you then. Weird that. Taylor has allowed crosses to come in all season. Ash is having to come across time after time. Here's some of the comments from posters on this thread. Doesn't mean we're all right and you're wrong, but you have to ask yourself if you are watching the same guy: " If he plays next Saturday, I'll be disappointed. Remember walking into the liberty last week and hearing he was starting and felt disappointed then but Kingsley had an injury. He cannot start next week. That's enough.Taylor deserves criticism because he was poor both defensively and going forward. Taylor must be the most frustrating player to watch, can't attack and can't defend ...weary of Taylor doing a semi ok job , semi ok don't cut the mustard Taylor is in the far off field in the beginning Oh Taylor please just **** off When are the management going to realise that Taylor, along with our defence, are killing us? As bad as Taylor is with our attack, you gotta ask why the rest of the team continue to give him the ball up field. Taylor for me is simple no longer good enough LB and a CB for me are vital positions for the transfer market Taylor? Don't get me started. .. still have to put up with the useless Taylor. Both full backs need to go not in the summer but next week I really wish Taylor was able to deliver a ball Taylor puts a ****e cross in I wish he'd **** off" Yet you can't understand why he's "getting bagged". Really? You're entitled to your opinion, Stump but I just don't see it.
Keep your hair on kiff just banter, hence the laugh after my comment which was simply in response to yours that's all. I still love you. In you response I'm not seeing any specific examples of Taylor's mistakes directly leading to goals against and dropped points, which was my simple point. We have all seen Rangel do this, costing us points and games hence my bewilderment that Taylor alone seemed to be the one being bagged by the many and why I asked "why's every one bagging Taylor", I should have added "and not Rangel, whose poor defence has cost us and Taylor as yet hasn't". Anyway, glad we both agree that changes need to be made and I sincerely hope Guidolin has the courage to start both Naughton and Kingsley, but I doubt he will.
I don't think you can pick out individual errors as such, it's just his awful positional play. It seems to me that the majority of of goals against us have come from crosses on the left. Goal threats should be cut out at source by the full back. In the Bournemouth game Ash was having to cover two positions and not for the first time this season. Occasionally Taylor puts in a good cross but most of the time he gives the impression he couldn't cross the road without assistance. His first movement when he receives the ball on the left is to look to pass backwards. He does occasionally make a good defensive block but not often enough for me to forgive the rest.
To be honest I think both Stumpy and Kiff are a little bit right on this one. In that Taylor is a woeful defender, he stands so far off his wingers that he just encourages them to run at him and simply doesn't have the pace or the ability to then deal with it, what happened to getting touch tight. his only asset is that he does give 100%, as for Paloschi nowhere near the quality we need, his running is aimless and his first touch isn't all that, whilst I also believe he is to lightweight to play in our system and is to easily bullied of the ball. I am not convinced he is a goal scorer, but to be fair haven't seen him in front of goal, now that could be down to his service, but his movement also has a bit to do with it. To be fair he does give 100%. In reality neither are what we need to move forward and I am sure there is a lot better out there for us.
I agree that Taylor's not up to it but for me the jury's still out on Paloschi. He's got more we've yet to see and at least gives 100%. I'd also love to see Kingsley and Naughton start (regularly). The worry for me is that unless we dig up some gems from lower leagues then no-one "that we need" is going to see us as an inviting prospect. My biggest fear is the likes of Siggy departing, then we will really struggle.
I think we will lose Williams in the summer , along with Gomis , others may go too . Rangel and Britton stepped up big time half way through this season but there getting long in the tooth and getting longer every game . Paloschi and Fer are a good start to the rebuild , a rebuild like we've never seen before come summer imo . Guido is a veteran manager with connections to transfers . If we were to replace Guido in the summer , we will have had the players being coached by 4 different managers in a 25 game period . I don't want another " Change " for the players to learn and endure another set of " Ideas " . A top CB ,a holding midfielder for Britton to work with , another winger , a right and left back along with Fer and Paloschi should do . Guido may want to work with Eder also .
I know why Taylor is bagged....It's because shelvey is not here now so they need another player to make public enemy No1..Its so typical on here to blame a single player to death just for the sake of moaning and being one of the in crowd.. Taylor just like every other player has had good and bad games with more good than bad. Its the same when i see someone saying our new young striker is not scoring because he is not getting any service but they seem to ignore that fact when it comes to Gomis You have to laugh.....
Not me, I was having a go at Taylor way before Shelvey. In fact I liked Shelvey. Taylor is just crap!!
