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He is actually a good player ..on his day when he cares.....but that's the problem. he just doesn't care!
no-one can say he aint good enough as he obviously is when he wants to be.. Just couldn't give a toss about us.
Best gone I suppose.
For the record. I heard many people say the same thing & slate paul furlong for similar acts when he joined us...turned out alright didn't he?..thoughts?
no-one can say he aint good enough as he obviously is when he wants to be.. Just couldn't give a toss about us.
Best gone I suppose.
For the record. I heard many people say the same thing & slate paul furlong for similar acts when he joined us...turned out alright didn't he?..thoughts?
The answer Queens is in your sig......
"The secret is to work less as individuals and more as a team. As a coach; I play not my eleven best, but my best eleven" - Knute Rockne
Probably one of our more talented players...but is now marking time with us, picking up his money, doing the minimum....not caring a jot..............
He is one that just has to go, one way or another
"The secret is to work less as individuals and more as a team. As a coach; I play not my eleven best, but my best eleven" - Knute Rockne
Probably one of our more talented players...but is now marking time with us, picking up his money, doing the minimum....not caring a jot..............
He is one that just has to go, one way or another
Flyer, in the interests of fair play, he also prevented a certain goal once he had woken up by taking a good position on the line.
Bosingwa has become a whipping boy for our current situation but, without wishing to defend him completely, if he was in the starting line up under Harry in August, it would not be the very worst of things IMO.
Let's remeber the big picture here. The idea is to win games and win the league if we can. If Harry things Boswinga can help with that, so be it.
I know he has not helped himself, and his usual rapid scuttle down the tunnel smiling yesterday may have been the final nail in his coffin yesterday for many, but Harry was doing the same! Laughing and chatting with an old friend.
When things go wrong, 'the pack' usually find a fall guy. That's Bosingwa for us at present. He's only one small part of a wider problem. Just a slightly alternative view. Have a go if you want to!
"Fall guy" is an understatement. He was as usual one of our best players yesterday. But people are having a go at him as like Harry and most of the rest of the players he smiled!
Defending him is fine, but I severely doubt his being in the starting line in August would have helped matters. He, along with others, have contributed massively toward the apparent disharmony at the club, and have shown little or no effort to change things.
He is the fall guy, he is the symbol of a lot of the things that are wrong with the club. I would suggest that knowing that, which I'm sure he does, it leaves him with two options. Option 1) fight like a dog to do all you can to win back some respect from the fans...run constantly for 90 minutes, and maybe even give the fans some appreciation on 90 minutes. Option 2) Show none of those characteristics, pick up a HUGE amount of money each week, which you probably know you don't deserve.
He seems to have chosen option 2, quite obviously, hence being the whipping boy.
Just saying in the big picture we may still have this guy. Not completely disagreeing with you.
I don't care about him smiling but Bosingwa more than anyone typifies our reason for failure this season. A player of Champions League pedigree who has played without enthusiasm, courage or endeavour. His truly shocking attitude all season was underlined by that late free kick yesterday. He should never play for the club again.
Have to disagree with a large amount of this thread. just watched the game and purposely looked for the Bos laugh, and it was there. Also saw HR 7 derry & Mackie having a laugh on the side line. saw hill laughing to the crowd too.
These players obviously don't care either then?
Ridiculous posts that take the blame off others that were supposed to save us this season. Talk about having a scapegoat. the bloke has more winners medals than our entire team put together. pretty sure he doesn't like losing.!!!
These players obviously don't care either then?
Ridiculous posts that take the blame off others that were supposed to save us this season. Talk about having a scapegoat. the bloke has more winners medals than our entire team put together. pretty sure he doesn't like losing.!!!
i don't blame Bosingwa, my anger is aimed at the moron who wanted to sign him and the complete plonker that agreed to pay him some disgusting sum of money, who wouldn't take it if it was offered to them. TF needs to wise up and quickly because these mercenaries wont leave unless they receive the same type of offer elsewhere or a sizeable payoff from us.
Good point. Apart from say maybe booing him all game on saturday there isn't really much you can do to make people like hime give a toss.
Someone should sneak into his house in the middle of the night and shave "I'm a massive tw*t" into his eyebrows
The others stayed on the pitch and clapped the fans though. They went up to them and clapped and clint and mackie looked pretty distraught, maybe someone said something to cheer them up and htey smiled after they were upset. Bos just laughed straight away and legged it down the tunnel, didn't even turn round once to acknowledge the fans. Don't bother sticking up for him, he's a massive gimp, should be forced to cut the grass at loftus road with a pair of nail scissors
None of our players bar none have covered themselves in glory this year, but what I saw at least suggested others were disappointed for what has happened. Laughing aside, walking straight of the pitch with no acknowledgement of the fans is just heartless. With regard to him being a scapegoat...that may be true, and my annoyance with him may well have been born out of disappointment of relegation being sealed. However, I stand by my disappointment at his lack of passion. Not good enough.
No you're right. Others were smiling and laughing at the time. Probably explains why harold was so defensive. Wonder if anyone heard the joke he made whcih seemed to crease up Mackie and Derry on the bench. Simple fact is the team as a whole had given up and might as well have not bothered going to the Madejski. After all it was ony the fans who paid to be there thinking their team would make more than a token effort.
I've already paid to see the last 2 home games. If they turn up with that attitude it could turn very nasty. Arsenal will humiliate us on current form.
My problem isn't the going off the pitch at the end laughing, I have no idea what he was laughing about, maybe someone said something funny, i doubt very much he thought we've just been relegated, its been a **** season, that's ****ing hilarious what I'm going to do now is have a ****ing good laugh as i leave the pitch.
No my main issue with him yesterday was that he was ****.
Turning his back on the free kick, i get annoyed with my boys team when they turn their back on play and they are 11. Constantly losing the ball, stupid passes, getting the wrong side of players. Yesterday he was shocking on the pitch not walking off of it.
I doubt he has ever put in a worse performance in his professional career.
Norway on another thread was very much correct with regards Jose and some of our other signings and our season should act as a lesson to others.
DO NOT SIGN PLAYERS WHO ARE AVAILABLE ON A FREE AND GIVE THEM LONG CONTRACTS AND LARGE WAGES.
The reason the clubs they are coming from have let their contracts expire is that they are PAST IT/OVERRATED/OVERPAID/INJURED/DELUSIONAL or just plain ****e.
No my main issue with him yesterday was that he was ****.
Turning his back on the free kick, i get annoyed with my boys team when they turn their back on play and they are 11. Constantly losing the ball, stupid passes, getting the wrong side of players. Yesterday he was shocking on the pitch not walking off of it.
I doubt he has ever put in a worse performance in his professional career.
Norway on another thread was very much correct with regards Jose and some of our other signings and our season should act as a lesson to others.
DO NOT SIGN PLAYERS WHO ARE AVAILABLE ON A FREE AND GIVE THEM LONG CONTRACTS AND LARGE WAGES.
The reason the clubs they are coming from have let their contracts expire is that they are PAST IT/OVERRATED/OVERPAID/INJURED/DELUSIONAL or just plain ****e.
Bosingwa is not the big problem.
Bosingwa is the itchy bleeding spot that agitates you and you want to pick at it, but Bosingwa is not the virus that has resulted in the spot. That virus is down to the naivety of the board and not having football experience and allowing the prior management team to fill the squad with the wrong type of players. There are a few bleeding spots on the skin this year but the when people look at the Bosingwa spot what many of them see is the dark blue colour of the spot and the fact that it has a picture of a lion in the centre of it and that makes that particular spot even more itchy and agitating.
IMHO he has not played particularly badly whilst he has been with us, but neither has he pulled up any trees and has been found out a few times, he is obviously not a leader and is probably guilty of going through the motions and not showing passion, because he does not have the personality of a Clint Hill or Shaun Derry to make his mark as the seasoned champions league winning pro and has probably not won any friends in the dressing room. However he gets picked by Harry regularly and probably because he has been there and done it, remains calm on the ball, but lets face it, he is not the player he once was, because if he was still a decent premier quality defender, then Chelsea would have given him another contract.
Bosingwa
Park
Grenero
Cesar
Traore
Fabio
Barton
SWP
Zamora
Johnson
All players who were brought in because their own clubs no longer wanted them and probably still think they are too good for QPR and the fact that QPR was relegated was not their individual fault.
Bosingwa is the itchy bleeding spot that agitates you and you want to pick at it, but Bosingwa is not the virus that has resulted in the spot. That virus is down to the naivety of the board and not having football experience and allowing the prior management team to fill the squad with the wrong type of players. There are a few bleeding spots on the skin this year but the when people look at the Bosingwa spot what many of them see is the dark blue colour of the spot and the fact that it has a picture of a lion in the centre of it and that makes that particular spot even more itchy and agitating.
IMHO he has not played particularly badly whilst he has been with us, but neither has he pulled up any trees and has been found out a few times, he is obviously not a leader and is probably guilty of going through the motions and not showing passion, because he does not have the personality of a Clint Hill or Shaun Derry to make his mark as the seasoned champions league winning pro and has probably not won any friends in the dressing room. However he gets picked by Harry regularly and probably because he has been there and done it, remains calm on the ball, but lets face it, he is not the player he once was, because if he was still a decent premier quality defender, then Chelsea would have given him another contract.
Bosingwa
Park
Grenero
Cesar
Traore
Fabio
Barton
SWP
Zamora
Johnson
All players who were brought in because their own clubs no longer wanted them and probably still think they are too good for QPR and the fact that QPR was relegated was not their individual fault.