That’s what makes it so evocative DC.......and I suspect it’s Duchatalet that will be cringing more than anyone.
I doubt it......they wouldn’t see the irony of such a wheeze. We all know what they would be capable of coming up with.
Incidentally the word ROT means “Go Away” in Belgium......taken from the Dutch language. I believe the guys who dreamed up the idea are from the original B20.
You seem to be suggesting that the only way football fans can have self-respect is by behaving like mindless hooligans. All Millwall fans know how to do is intimidate people and smash things up. Reams mocked Charlton fans in much the same way two years ago, suggesting they should have stormed the Valley offices wearing masks and wielding baseball bats, like a bunch of Standard Liege thugs did at their ground. What is it about football violence that some people find so attractive?
I merely make the point that Mr RD would have found owning Millwall a rather more uncomfortable experience, and for an owner like him that is no bad thing
...because Millwall fans would have threatened and intimidated him and his staff (and worse), to a far more extreme degree than the few regrettable and isolated incidents which have occurred due to the actions of Charlton fans. I detest Duchatelet and Meire and I hate what they have done to the Club I love. But I will never condone intimidation or threats - which must lead to violence if they are not heeded. Mass protest is not mob rule. Showing collective anger and strength of feeling is not hooliganism. Protesting is not anti-social. But the pro-RD sycophants would love people to think that they are one and the same thing. These are the comparisons that the apologists make to try to discredit protesting fans. Ridiculing decent and law-abiding Charlton fans for refusing to cross that line between legitimate protest and intimidation / thuggery plays right into the hands of the spineless quislings who defend this intolerant and intolerable regime.
For what it's worth, I love Terry and June and actually own the box-set. Charlton fans have often been referred to as anoraks and trainspotters, yet I know our hardcore support is as passionate as any club's, and this latest idea should be applauded for its 'out of the box' thinking; it will really needle Roland and hopefully go some way towards hammering that final nail into the proverbial coffin. These guys (ROT) are using their own time, resources and energy in a bid to rid our club of the poison that has seeped into us all in the last four years, and for that I am immensely grateful - for how many of us can truly say we have done anything more than bitch and moan in the pub and on forums, eh? These guys are talking the talk and walking the walk, but best of all, they are doing it the Charlton way. No violence. No threats. Just humour and (hopefully) the winding-up of an old sod in Belgium.
To criticise Charlton fans for not being Millwall fans? Sorry, Willie, but you're painting yourself into a corner here. You have to ask yourself, does this help push Roland out of the Valley? If not, what would? SWallow your pride and get behind B20
I hear what you are saying Mr Lardiman but I do think van Gerwen does have a point. I am not a violent man but if I saw the squirrel and Duchatelet getting a kick up the bottom to help them out of The Valley, then I would have no sympathy with the Belgians.
They have wilfully and quite deliberately destroyed our football club. After 6 months they could have admitted they were wrong and changed course - they chose to plough on regardless and a 75% empty Valley on match days is one of the consequences. Vote Terry and June doesn’t cut it.
I understand how you both feel. What RD and KM have done is not a trivial thing. Not a harmless game with no consequences. And I know I probably sound like I'm pontificating (not a million miles away from how IA sounds sometimes). For sure I'm far from happy that every effort I have made to hasten the day when RD and KM leave has apparently produced no result. But there's a line I can't cross. Nor do I have the right to ask or encourage anybody else to cross it for me. Ultimately if that means Duchatelet wins, then he wins. His ownership of our Club may be legal, yet his arrogant disregard and the harm he has done makes it clearly unjust. That is of course why so many Charlton fans oppose him. But strong arm tactics, bullying, intimidation and threats are also unjust. If Charlton fans behave that way, even in response to what they believe is intolerable provocation, then they have already lost what they claim to be defending. If one person (and I mean anyone, even Roland Duchatelet or Katrien Meire) is driven away from our Club by fear of threats or intimidation, then I don't think I would want to be a part of it myself anymore. If we accept that one person can be abused that way in the name of Charlton Athletic, then we open the door for anybody to be abused in the future, as long as we feel we have good enough reason. Our wonderful old football Club doesn't deserve to have such wrong done in its name. It is better than that. And even if we won by behaving that way, it would break my heart.
That's very unfair. These guys have gone to a lot of trouble to get rid of Roland, which is what we all want. If it doesn't work,well at least they can say they tried. As far as the Millwall comparison goes, the club have made huge efforts over the years to get rid of the hooligan element, to the extent that it has been like a library the last couple of times we've played there. Football has moved on from the seventies.
