Also, anyone else use Twitter? This was from Ashley Williams last night. AshWills84 Ashley Williams I just wanna tell everyone that one of the best players I have ever played with the legend that is Ferrie Bodde is close to a return!! Then, after the natural hysterical reaction; AshWills84 Ashley Williams You lot sound as excited as me! I don't know when he will return so don't quote me on a date haha just letting you know. 16 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Regarding wether he's good enough , well it seems straightforeward to me a a high number (And by no means all) of The Swans have adjusted to life in The Premiership very well, so given a fit Bodde was by far one of our best players , then logically a fit Bodde will do the same
Big Apple- fair post and i agere that everything stated on the ferrie bodde saga is futile until he gets on the field of play. Your example of monk though is. A poor one IMO. It is well known that he lost a yard of pace after the first injury and the club only offered him a 1 year deal on reflection of this, his second injury kept his level of pace that he lost previuosly but monk had to really tailor his game to suit,our style of play worked to his advantage and we must not forget this. As for not knowing which of our players could perform at the top level well i Think most thought sinclair,dyer,rangel,ash and allen could do it, but you cant compare them with bodde,being out for 3 years is virtually unheard of in professional football and i would like all the posters on here to find out how many have returned to the peak of their powers if at all(nice project for scottswan me thinks) As you know yourself ACL injuries Are person specific and There is no gaurentee of a 100% success no matter what rehab you follow,what surgeon or what form of graft you have(if any) the only way you really Find out is when you put the knee under the stresses of your chosen sport. I Find the the bodde saga intresting on so many levels, but as far as im concerned people Are being unrealistic to the extreme,nobody denies his talent but that alone is not enough,you mentioned sinclair "suffering" well is it not possible that bodde would also suffer ?? Yet people refuse to beleive this might be the case! Rose tinted specs spring to mind RE bodde on this board. We ALL want him back and playing make no mistake of that, some people dont Think that 3 yrs out of football is a problem, well give me the Long list of players that havent played for that length of time due to injury and tell me how many 1. Returned 2. Returned and succeeded at a higher level than they ever played before. Let us look at the evidence and we can all make more informed judgements and opinions. Lets hope the numbers Are high for ferries sake
the way i see it is we have spent a lot of money on boddie over the last 3 years so it would be madness not to give him a go now, i personally dont think he will last due to his record of injuries, It will be great to see him in a swansea shirt again after all we have been through and i would love him to be up to the job, and i dont mean one or two games but the rest of the season, i dont think he can do it but i hope he can.......
i have all the faith in him to return. Norway look at Owen Hargreaves he has returned but not playing each week but he is fully fit as if you check his training video out on youtube he had the same problem as Bodde
Actually the last news on owen was that he was injured The guy hasnt been out as long as ferrie bodde, he has played a few with injections then been out then back in, please try harder !! i have set the task for the whole of the swans message board and your the only one who has at least tried !,so 100% respect from me for that I cant think of anybody who has been out for 3 yrs and made a full comeback ,over to you swans forum and ferrie bodde
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=ncf&id=6917301 nearest I could find after doing a quick scan Norway...think his injury was a lot worse than Bodde's too. And i know he isnt playing at the top level (but he is playing at quite a high level) and obviously it is a different sport (but A LOT MORE physical) but it shows that with enough determination it can happen!!!
very hard ask for bodde but live in hope ! found this..... The Sicknote XI Goalkeeper Chris Kirkland â Ankle, Collarbone, Back, Finger, Concussion Kirklandâs injuries during the first half of his career seemed to be non-stop and threatened to prematurely end his career. As a youngster he was tipped to become Englandâs future No.1, but recurring injuries to his back, freak injuries to his collarbone, ankle and finger, and most recently getting knocked out cold by Jonas Elmander, have meant heâs been pushed well back in the queue. Right Back Wes Brown â Metatarsal, Achilles, Knee, Ankle Brown was hailed by Alex Ferguson as the âbest natural defender this club (Man Utd) has had for yearsâ, high praise indeed. Despite some stand out performances, Brown has never really been able to consistently perform due to injuries that meant his career has been pretty much stop-start since he rose to fame. Left Back Fabio Aurelio â Leg, Achilles, Thigh Liverpoolâs Brazilian full-back hasnât been lucky with injuries so far in his career. After breaking his leg whilst playing for Valencia, Aurelio has suffered from recurring Achilles problems and even prolonged a thigh injury by playing beach football with his family on holiday. Centre Backs Jonathan Woodgate â Back, Hernia, Groin, Thigh The first of the two Spurs centre-backs to feature in the team is another player whoâs probably gained his reputation for the wrong reasons, encompassing off-pitch violence, red cards, own goals and, of course, plenty of injuries along the way. Putting all of these negative connotations aside, Woodgate has actually been able to prove himself as a top-class defender, with a spell at Real Madrid perhaps being the pinnacle of his career (even if it was rated as one of the worst transfers ever). Ledley King â Metatarsal, Knee Ledders has somehow been able to combine being injured, playing well and being a party-animal all at the same time. The England centre-backâs knee problem is so bad that he hasnât been able to train properly since 2008, just turning up on most Saturdays and quite often winning Man of the Match. However itâs now become clear that, at the age of 30, Ledley might not be able to carry on such a routine at such a high level for much longer, and his days at Spurs might well be numbered. Right Midfield Darren Anderton â Hernia, Groin, Achilles, Knee The original âSicknoteâ, Anderton is probably more famous for being injured than playing football. The wingerâs career at Portsmouth, Spurs, Birmingham, Wolves & Bournemouth was blighted by repetitive injuries, but was able to end his career on a good note with a spectacular last minute volley to win his final game with Bournemouth. Left Midfield Kieron Dyer -Knee, Hamstring, Leg I can remember Kieron Dyer being Englandâs best left-winger on Pro Evolution Soccer for about 5 years, purely because heâd been injured for so long and no-one knew how good he was. Currently, Dyer is (pretty much) injury-free and has today returned to his original club Ipswich Town â heâll be hoping to get a string of performances together for the Championship side before maybe returning fully fit to the Premier Leguae next seasonâ¦thatâs if West Ham manage to stay up⦠Centre Midfield Owen Hargreaves â Knee, Hamstring The captain of the Sicknote XI. Hargreaves cost Man Utd £17 million in July 2007 and has gone on to play just 27 games for the club. Mocked by England fans during his early International career, he soon proved everyone wrong by outperforming every other England player during the 2006 World Cup. Unfortunately Itâs quite likely weâll never see the tireless Hargreaves breaking up attacks whilst running about like a headless chicken again, as rumours have been rife that Utd wonât extend his contract past this summer. Jamie Redknapp â Knee Everyoneâs favourite SkySports pundit is much better at being smooth on camera than being a fully fit footballer. Knee injuries plagued Redknapp throughout his career at Spurs, Liverpool and Southampton, and had to retire at the age of 32. Apparently he couldnât risk playing with his knee because heâd âdefinitely smash itâ. Wahey! (Sorry). Centre Forwards Dean Ashton â Hamstring, Ankle Football lost Dean Ashton at the age of only 26 after he couldnât recover from a long-term ankle injury, sustained by pint-sized winger Shaun Wright Phillips in an England training session in 2006. The Crewe, Norwich and West Ham striker was tipped as an important player for the national team, but his career was cut short and announced his retirement in December 2009. Michael Owen â Groin, Knee, Metatarsal Michael Owenâs decline as a footballer has been in complete contrast to his sudden rise to fame as a lightning-paced 18 year old at Liverpool. With recurrent injuries to both groin and knee, Owenâs speed has diminished significantly, meaning heâs not the threat he was during his earlier years they played with and after some long term injuries !
There's a lot more than that but you wouldn't have the space. Matty Collins' career was ended prematurely and the list goes on. But didn't Shearer come back from a really bad injury and although lost some pace went on to score loads of goals? As for 'rose tinted specs' re Bodde nothing could be further from the truth. Swans fans are merely hoping that one of their favourites recovers fully and does the business for them again. As others have said we've invested a lot in him and I'm sure he wants to pay back the Club for its patience. 'Rose tinted specs' seems to suggest that the situation is bad but that we simply don't see it. Truth is, despite some fans writing him off we just don't know do we? But we're entitled to hope.
Hell yes we are entitled to hope, i have everything crossed for him as a player and our club as he would be like signing a new player IF he can return and oh what a player he could be on past experience. dont want too much say 15 goals and a couple of player of the months would suffice
boddes got all the skills and instinctivley knows where the back of the net is he wont have lost that, iff his fittness is spot on then the only arguement against giving him a fair go is phsycological but he always struck me as a real stuborn tough nut to crack ! its NOT impossible at the moment for him to return and step up to the level required iff handled correctly so untill shown otherwise its all posotive on the bodde front at the moment for me!
Still none of you have answered the question !! How many players have returned to the game after being out of action for 3yrs? and how many have been out that amount of time and returned to play at a higher level ?? swantastic- Very good list but none of those spent 3yrs out of the game with just 10-20mins football in that time apart from ashton who,er..retired ! and im suprised craig beatie isnt on that list !! Bepe- Im with you on the hope mate! dont think i dont want to see bodde back and playing it would be awesome to see his return Knackered jack- Correct with shearer but your not answering the question, its not about coming back from a bad injury,like shearer and alot of others have done, the question is about how many players have come back to the same level AFTER 3 YRS OUT and how many players have returened after being 3 yrs out and come back at a higher level ? As of yet nobody has offered me the counter argument, Hope is propbably the only one, and we are all hoping,i deal in reality though and many should start to do the same RE bodde, at least that way we can be pleasantly suprised when/if he proves us wrong,right now there seems to be unrealistic pressure on the player which is not going to help his cause,the questions i asked fellow forum members that have not been answered show the scale of ferries task,if you forgot what they were i shall repeat them; "We ALL want him back and playing make no mistake of that, some people dont Think that 3 yrs out of football is a problem, well give me the Long list of players that havent played for that length of time due to injury and tell me how many 1. Returned 2. Returned and succeeded at a higher level than they ever played before. Let us look at the evidence and we can all make more informed judgements and opinions. Lets hope the numbers Are high for ferries sake "
Not many want to return to the game after 3 years out , not really a fair question . Every case would be different , wanting to paint them all with one brush is wrong to start with
How do you know that cracker? have a crystal ball ? Its perfectly fair question, if they didnt want to return to the game maybe its because they couldnt,ever thought of that ?
There is so many intangibles to each case , how good the player was to start with , how bad the injury was , the mental strength of each player .....
I really don't know why you're pushing this. It's not that hard really. If Bodde comes back then it's true it may never have been done before and in all probability hasn't after such a long layoff, but although neither you nor me has a crystal ball neither of us is medically qualified either (as far as I'm aware), so as far as I'm concerned this is the bottom line: if the medics say it's possible then it is. If they are saying it's impossible then we wouldn't be having this debate. Answer your question?
Yes, read my previous posts on here and ive mentioned the same sort of thing, so preaching to the converted on that front my friend My whole point on this issue is that there are too many people thinking the guy is gonna walk back in and be world class again, IMO that will not happen. I also notice that nobody has mentioned the comments that scottswan made RE Ashley Williams retweet which he said that he has no idea when ferrie will be returning to action !! Every chance should be given to him and we just dont know what will happen but the fact he has now been out for so long tells me he will struggle to recapture his level of performance. Intresting that you mention the intangibles cracker, seems your finally coming round to my way of thinking. A return is possible to top level but not probable, as nobody can present any evidence to back up the 3yrs out theory then im firmly in the camp that thinks his top level return is very unlikly. different strokes for different folks! im just hoping the player proves me wrong and becomes the player we all hope he can be
Knackered jack- no, it doesnt. Try and answer mine first and it will give us all the evidence we need. Medically they may say he will be able to play again,the crux of this is at what level and will it hinder the talent he once had. So a really daft comment from you there knackered The evidence of possibility is how many other players have made similar recoveries from similar lengths of time out, an answer that looks like we will never get.
norway i have been saying what you are saying for a very long time. the odds are stacked very high against him but as a club who have stuck by him that no other club would have done then i want him to prove that we have been right to spend a fortune on him.......there is no question that he will make a comeback and the real question is....How long will he last before he is crocked again and do we say then that enough is enough and sadly call it a day with him. to me with his diabolical record of injuries then i cant honestly see him lasting very long....
