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Blatter is not the problem

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by typical, Nov 17, 2011.

  1. Ponders Revisited

    Ponders Revisited Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, Franco. I may just consider having a pop at politics. Those expenses are well worth getting tucked into...
     
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  3. Ponders Revisited

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    Some black people are quick to claim their pride in being English, but just as quick to use the slavery card when things are getting tough. What is it to be? English or West Indian?

    Besides, there is not a single black person alive who suffered at the hands of slavery, just as there is not a soul alive who instigated it. It is in the past, forgotten - or should be. If the British are guilty of such awful behaviour, I think we made up for it by defending the world during two world wars. Hitler would have turned his attentions away from the Jews and looked to eradicate all non-whites on the earth.
     
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  4. Captain Blackaddick

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    Oh dear Ponders - you've fallen foul of Godwin's Law. You lose ;)
     
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  5. Ponders Revisited

    Ponders Revisited Well-Known Member

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    No, Captain B. You have fallen foul of the fallacist's fallacy.

    My comment is not hyperbole - it is highly relevent to the discussion. How can you not use Hitler in a discussion about totalitariansim.

    If I had used Hitler as a comparison to my old Headmaster, then I would happily concede.

    Check the rules, my friend.
     
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  6. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

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    <laugh> Congratulations. You have left me speechless for the first time. Hope you don't suffer from vertigo up there <ok>
     
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  7. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

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    In your own words- do you still have loads of ''spooks'' living around you?

    Spook - Offensive Slang Used as a disparaging term for a Black person.
     
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  8. brb

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    Can I join in?

    No second thoughts, after my last contribution to a debate on the Charlton board, I have no comment to make! <laugh>

    Anyway it's Friday lunchtime and I have better things to be doing, called pub time <ale><ok>


    <peacedove>
     
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  9. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

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    I've got the day off <ale>. Not going to move though as didn't get back to past 5am <laugh>
     
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  10. Captain Blackaddick

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    I meant it completely tongue in cheek, Ponders, hence the wink.

    But where were we discussing totalitarianism? You mentioned Hitler to argue that any bad British behaviour in regard to slavery was compensated for by our bravery (which no-one doubts) in the Second World War, which in a discussion about potential racism against black people seems irrelevant.
     
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    i find some of this incredible.

    "It is due to you and your ilk's rainbow-visions, that you think everyone needs defending, when they are capable of doing so themselves. In fact, it is liberals 1like you who have the biggests chips on your shoulders and have created a society where you cannot say BOO to a goose. It is feeble, and the cause of this country's downfall."

    presuming that you are white, born into employed parents in England....what the hell do you know about having to defend yourself? you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth ponders...mate cant you realise that not everyone had similar advantages?
     
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    reread that and its an inflammatory comment by myself. i dont want to start a slanging match so i apologise
     
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    Okay, here's how this argument is going to go every single time about black people and crime.

    A higher % of black people are criminals in this country. That is an unarguable fact.
    That point is then countered by black people are prioritised by police (Which is a BS claim) or that a higher % of black people are poor. And poverty breeds criminality.
    Then you get somebody arguing that it's the black persons fault they are poor, if they tried hard they could achieve something.
    Then you get the point about society discriminating against them. Bad schooling and people do not see education as an objective.
    That's then countered with discrimination is with good reason as a higher % of black people are criminals. It's that crime which makes the areas bad.


    It goes round in a circle. It's a stupid debate.
     
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  14. typical

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    If it is of any interest to you, it is statistically easier for non english males between the ages of 16 - 24 to find employment in london. It is also another stat (if you want them) that 75% of gun crime is committed by non-white males. People trafficking is exclusively a foreign crime. Identity fraud is committed mainly by asians, as is 80% of internet grooming. Class A Drug smuggling again is primarily organised by polish and russian gangs as is lead and copper theft. Knife crime is predominantly committed by non white males in London.

    So you ask when do we have to defend ourselves? Every day pal.
     
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    If it is of any interest to you, it is statistically easier for non english males between the ages of 16 - 24 to find employment in london

    prove that. id be interested on what basis you could do a quantitive analysis of such an open-ended statement
     
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    You can get the stats under the freedom of information act or do a breakdown yourself by just reading the newspapers recently and do the math or go to any prets or look at the workforce on the olympic villiage or shards or walk into a cloths store in oxford street......
     
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  17. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

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    But then what about all the stores in Croyden, Bromley, Bexleyheath, Bluewater... Big difference to Oxford Street, no?
     
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    Croydon is in surrey
    Bromley is in kent as in Bexleyheath and bluewater-no?
     
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  19. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

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    Ok- St Johns Wood, Surrey Quays, Westfield (Sheppards Bush).
     
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  20. typical

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    Your getting desperate now, are you going to say isleworth market next or the parade in finchley?

    Actually Westfeild is full of foreigners as is the stratford mall. I've never been to surrey Quays I don't suppose many shoppers have.
     
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